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#160753 - 03/06/03 08:19 PM Too good to be true?
Guardman2001 Offline
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Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 241
Loc: USA
The other day on ebay I entered a bid for a Technics kn7000. I was outbid as expected. Today I got an offer from an ebay member to purchase one for $2799 & shipping. Too steep at present. Then I got another offer from a different ebay seller. $1100 and they would pay shipping. Brand new, sealed.factory box, w/ warranty. I was curious.
They said it had been a present from a Brother. they had to have a money order Today, because they needed the money bad. We went back and forth w/ emails until I asked for the serial# and a picture of them holding the item. They were out of Las Vegas. Then they cooled to the deal after I asked for the verification. They were insulted? I didn't trust them? Take care!!!

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#160754 - 03/06/03 08:35 PM Re: Too good to be true?
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
You know the old saying "When it sounds too good to be true, it probably isn't." I sincerely believe this was the case here as well. One of the things that should have been a dead tip-off was the serial number. Every manufacturer has a specific coded serial number that identifies their product. The manufacturer is usually more than happy to let you know the history of that serial number or whether or not it is bogas.

good Luck,

Gary
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#160755 - 03/06/03 08:37 PM Re: Too good to be true?
arnothijssen Offline
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Registered: 11/15/00
Posts: 255
Loc: Marietta, GA USA
you did the right thing
ask for verification, phone number, call em up, and never send a money order, check or cash.

Pretty sure it was a scam

I do a lot of bussiness on the internet, creditcard or paypal is the way to go. It will give you insurance and protection.

And with larger amounts, I always verify the seller through a phonecall
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#160756 - 03/06/03 08:57 PM Re: Too good to be true?
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
what was the guys feedback like?

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#160757 - 03/07/03 03:41 AM Re: Too good to be true?
zeerog Offline
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Registered: 02/26/03
Posts: 15
Loc: bredene / wvl / belgium
Feedback? You can't relay on that to! Because you can sell and buy fictive things with free email accounts so . . . you never sure on that ether! A telefone call ? ? ? ?
You now the gay's telefone but ? ? ?

I have buyed a kn 7000 over the net at ebay in a shop - i was'nt in the possibility to go there for a while (hand ingury) But dit make the trip of 3 hours to go there and another 3 hours to go back home to collect and test my purchase! I dont have fait in sending it by post - you pay - it get lost in the transport and . . . . where is your money? (i paid 2300 euro for a demo keyboard in perfect order and with 2 years waranthy)

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#160758 - 03/07/03 06:06 AM Re: Too good to be true?
Guardman2001 Offline
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Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 241
Loc: USA
Their feedback was great, 1474 positive, 1 negative. That's why I was so interested at first, but I couldn't tie the two of them together, so I couldn't be sure they were one and the same person and the more questions I asked the less info they supplied. I know the box would have the serial # printed for all to see. When I asked them why they just didn't pawn it and why they were so desperate, they acted like I hurt their feelings. I checked and told them Western Union only allows $999 to be sent and they said that's okay, send $999 now and $100 tomorrow, then when I asked for more verification, they said "you like to hurt people and stop wasting our time." Huh, I wonder who was wasting who's time?

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#160759 - 03/07/03 06:35 AM Re: Too good to be true?
Tom Cavanaugh Offline
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Registered: 12/06/99
Posts: 2133
Loc: Muskegon, MI
If they were on the level they should have been happy to give you the serial number and a picture. Con artists always play on your guilt hence the "you are hurting our feelings" comments. The "just send 999 dollars today and another 100 tomorrow" was also a good tip off.

You did the right thing. Good job!
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#160760 - 03/07/03 07:28 AM Re: Too good to be true?
Guardman2001 Offline
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Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 241
Loc: USA
I sent an email to ebay fraud investigations, but haven't heard back yet.

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#160761 - 03/07/03 02:34 PM Re: Too good to be true?
zeerog Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 02/26/03
Posts: 15
Loc: bredene / wvl / belgium
dont count tomatch on ebay - they say many good thing but there thing is to earn money so . . . There manner is to send 2 or 3 warnings to the fraudulois people and that's that before removing there account - they change there account by another free email and they are on the road again! So . .

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#160762 - 03/07/03 05:52 PM Re: Too good to be true?
PaulD Offline
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Registered: 01/25/03
Posts: 258
Loc: Eugene, OR
Some manufactures have policies against selling on the internet. I would understand if they were a dealer, asking the serial number would spook them. The price though, seems extremely low (well below what a dealer can buy it for), and the guy presented himself as an end-user. Sound fishy to me. Anyone with time on their hands can easily bring up their rating and still be a slimeball waiting to score big, with high dollar amounts. You did the right thing, just be thankful you still have your hard earn money. I tell this to everyone, when making large dollar purchases on eBay, use a reputable escrow service... Don't be a victim!
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