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#160962 - 04/20/06 09:43 AM Re: Should I sell my G1000 and get a Tyros2?
Dreamer Offline
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Yes, you should.
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#160963 - 04/20/06 09:51 AM Re: Should I sell my G1000 and get a Tyros2?
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Okay..okay already!!!

The first $4,000.00 takes my G1000...
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#160964 - 04/20/06 10:54 AM Re: Should I sell my G1000 and get a Tyros2?
rolandfan Offline
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Registered: 07/29/02
Posts: 935
Loc: South Africa
Put the g1000 on ebay, say farewell to it...and get a shiny spanking new tyros2

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#160965 - 04/20/06 11:03 AM Re: Should I sell my G1000 and get a Tyros2?
Dnj Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by rolandfan:
Put the g1000 on ebay, say farewell to it...and get a shiny spanking new tyros2


Why, the G1000 is an awesome arranger.....sounds like you think differently, have you played one at lenght?

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#160966 - 04/21/06 12:55 AM Re: Should I sell my G1000 and get a Tyros2?
rolandfan Offline
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Registered: 07/29/02
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Loc: South Africa
Yes i have played the g1000 several times. It remains the best sounding Roland arranger to date...better than all the VA series and better than the G70. The drum kits i remember were more powerful than the SAME named drum kits on my ex va5. And it has no touch screen and lots of buttons which is brilliant. Key feel was out of the top draw.And it looked smart. In my opinion there should have been a g2000. Their previous best arranger before the g1000 i think was the e86 which i owned. Now i have played the tyros2 and it may not have the same key feel as the g1000 but it certainly puts the g1000 aside in all departments including sounds styles features ease of use etc.

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#160967 - 04/21/06 04:30 AM Re: Should I sell my G1000 and get a Tyros2?
Songman55 Offline
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Registered: 06/24/05
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Loc: Baltimore, MD USA
I wouldn't trade my G 1000 but I sure could use that roadie.

Joe

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#160968 - 04/21/06 06:09 AM Re: Should I sell my G1000 and get a Tyros2?
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
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Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Rolandfan, I agree with you a little..The 86 was a nice board..I think the G800 had an edge over the 86..except the 86 had speakers..
I totally disagree with you that the G1000 is aside compared to the Tyros...Although sounds and styles are subjective[personal taste]..I find most of the G1000 bank sounds favorable to the Tyros. Many of the Tyros sounds have that annoying fake vibrato built into the sample..I rather control the vibrato with after-touch..
We all get use to the sounds of our own keyboards, and prefer them, but in my previous point...it is true..

As for styles ...I prefer Roland styles, and always have..Yamaha as the other manufacturers, have some nice styles, but across the board...give me Roland styles...besides styles can be converted[Roland seems to sound better with the converted styles , more so then the other way around]..
Now for the "biggie"...Features...
The 8 year old G1000, has features Yamaha does not even know about..
Like Chord sequencer, a real 16 track sequencer, assignable features with after-touch that Tyros does not have, Control for up to six layers[parts] separately, including expression].
The old G1000 even utilized markers for SMF's.[as Tyros]..
More features that Tyros can't touch.. The quickest SMF search and play from media..The same with styles..The best SMF editing of SMF's in real time and easily saved[system exclusive].

As for easy to operate...when you get use to any board this is second nature...That being said..I can do anything faster and smoother "Live" than anyone on a Tyros, Korg or Ketron..

Personally, I think the G1000 was[is] the most advanced arranger of it's time..[1998]..

And this "dated" thing makes me laugh..
A cha cha is still a cha cha..same with a polka...and every other known rhythm..

A piano sounds like it did forever, a sax...a trumpet..

Does the Tyros have great sounds...absolutely..
Is it worth given up all the features, key feel, get around, performances etc...that the Tyros can't touch.....If the answer was YES, I would already have a Tyros..
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#160969 - 04/21/06 08:10 AM Re: Should I sell my G1000 and get a Tyros2?
rolandfan Offline
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Registered: 07/29/02
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Loc: South Africa
I agree that the g800 sounds are indeed a notch above the e86. I also agree totally that Rolands 16 track sequencer is much easier to use than the tyros. I was never happy with that aspect of the tyros. Its true that some of the yamaha sounds have built in vibrato that u cant remove but i think they used it in the appropriate sounds and to me it sounds realistic. The tyros styles are more "in your face" than the g1000. This is either liked or disliked. The tyros2 multipads are fantastic to use with the styles.

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#160970 - 04/21/06 10:33 AM Re: Should I sell my G1000 and get a Tyros2?
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
The vocalizer, multipads, multiple song markers, and audio recording...are all pluses over the G1000..but at this point in time..the comparison should be Tyros/G70.

What I am using currently covers all the bases..G1000 for arranger and sequence playback..Also sequencing[I prefer this over the computer sequencing]..
The DisCover5 for Vocalizer and sequence playback..
The laptop for MP3 and break tunes..

It would be nice to have it all in one...G70?[if they would update to audio recording as they did the FantomX...I don't think it would be hard to upgrade].

Maybe Midjay[in a keyboard form].

Maybe the Genesys[a little pricey].

Maybe the Korg PA1X[with a few OS changes]

My guess...the G70 will be the most logical for me..
I would even be interested in a version of the E80 [speaker model] equipped with 76 [G70 type} keys.....Even if it weighed in at 60lbs..If the sound system is as good as the specs..
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#160971 - 04/21/06 11:02 AM Re: Should I sell my G1000 and get a Tyros2?
rolandfan Offline
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Registered: 07/29/02
Posts: 935
Loc: South Africa
To be even more fair to Roland it should be E80 compared to T2. Fran here in South Africa the music shops always have the g70 pa1x and now the T2.. In the USA it seems these top end keyboards are hard to locate.. The tyros2 took 6 months to come to South Africa but the G70 was here the moment it was launched. I will try the E80 when it launches. I think u should rather go for the e80 and not the g70 albeit no 76 keys. By the way i still have that cd u sent me a few years ago...do u remember?

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