I received an EMAIL from Roland CK today with Retail Prices and Availability Information.
The E80's suggested retail price is $4799
The E60 is $1799 and the E50 is $1499.
My Rep from Roland CK says they were hoping to have them by October but for some reason, they seem to think it will now be later then October.
In the meantime, the G70 has moved to the MI division effective January 1, 2007 with a retail price of $3799.00.
These prices represent manufactures suggested retail prices and of course you may find prices higher, lower or whatever.

George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California
818-881-5566

A conversion check on George Kayes Dollar prices appear to be about for the UK Pound.
I stand to be corected because of Roland UK pricing ?.

E80 £2550
E60 £ 955
E50 £ 796

$4799.00 vs $3799.00 ? what constitutes this price diffrence on the G70 vs E80?

The G70 has less styles and sounds I think but 76 keys. The E80 is Rolands latest technology, has some new styles and sounds but only 61 keys but it has speakers. The operating system and features possibly offer more than the G70 but I've not seen one yet to confirms this, although I intend doing so as soon as I can.
For the price difference the G70 looks to be a great buy considering the new E80 styles are available on the G70 forum for downloading and tweaking into the G70. I suppose it depends if anyone wanting to purchase a Roland requires speakers or not and 61 or 76 keys. At least Roland gives the option to purchasers as to buying 61 or 76 notes. I'd like to see Yamaha do this as I love my T2 but 61 keys is just not enough for some songs.
I'm guessing that the speaker system ups the price on the E80 as it looks very good on the specification.
The E80 is also selling for around £2000 cash price in the UK so a nice saving off the rrp.

They better be great speakers at that price & weight!

Amplification 2 x 35W
Speakers 2 x 13cm, 2 x 6.6cm (with Bass Reflex system)
Phones 2

E80 1175.8 (W) x 488.7 (D) x 197.8 (H) mm, 46-5/16 (W) x 19-1/4 (D) x 7-13/16 (H) inches
Weight 22.5 kg / 49 lbs 10 oz



[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 08-19-2006).]

Hey Dnj - With those prices, I'm going to have to save for a long time. Why are these boards priced for only a few to afford - good grief. The E-80 is almost a car price! No thanks.

I think the full retail price on the e80 is insanely high. And they dont include a stand and better speaker system like the Tyros. E80 width at 488mm...that makes it a bit bulky and too easy to scratch when moving it around...but thats just me... Oh and it would be nice if they put a better soprano sax this time and not that toy one the g70 had.

E-80 ain't worth it-even at half that price.
You'd be better off with the G-70.

Instead...you could probably buy THREE Psr3000's !!

I'm very interested in seeing/hearing what the E60 has to offer. 76 keys, speakers, and only 28 lbs is good for starters. Just how much is deleted from the G70 or E80 models remains to be seen.

Glenn

i'd say even more! e60 seems to have pretty much all the features of g70, except for harmonizer, slots for expansions and the colour screen! still a acceptable keyboard (i hope) and enough memory to fill it with alot of styles!

so, is more than only good for starters!
i think the keybed should be better that exr7, which was quite acceptable anyway.

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Unfortunately the E-60 has only 64 notes of polyphony, only about 120 styles and no aftertouch.
As always, you get what you pay for... sad but true.

[This message has been edited by Dreamer (edited 08-21-2006).]

For now, only available in CK stores. Roland marketing department.


Rolands marketing department.
Starkeeper


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For that price I'd but a full blown Yamaha Clavinola for $7000 and get 88 keys and everything that is available in any aranger today.

OT, starkeeper, are you still interested in e60 after buying psr3000?

Hahaha. NO. . As soon as I sell my Roland EM20, I will be an official Synthzone Roland basher. I'm already a Roland marketing department basher.
Yamaha has PSR1500, PSR3000 and Tyros 2 dealers IN Toronto (A large metropolitain area) and Roland will market the E series in a hick town, 160 miles away from that center. Roland merketing has room for rent upstairs (in their heads).
Starkeeper
I made a typo, but I think I'll leave it. Yamaha has a marketing department, Roland has a merketing department.
Their decisions are murky.

As Doctor Phil would say,"What were they thinking". I'm not going to travel 160 miles to demo a keyboard.

[This message has been edited by Starkeeper (edited 08-21-2006).]

Wow no vocal harmony on the e60...yet the cheap psr2000 had it. Roland is heading into the red...or black....er whichever the bad one is

Donny: Three? I only have two hands. How do you play the third one?

You don't want to know...

Does anyone know if the harmonizer will be available as an option/add-on?

Glenn

no, e60 is pretty much all you get when you buy it. there is no room for any hardware upgrade.
the os is upgradable, but leave that aside, won t help with a vocal harmonizer.
now, is just too bad that this e series, that could've been a major step forward for roland turns into a such difficult and frustrating experience, even before hiting the markets....
not clever thing to do, roland!
in the meanwhile, yamaha i am sure cooks something in the bakery... hopefully a 76 keys cookie... hehe, that would be great, to have several 76 keys models to choose from...

I was having the same thoughts. Is Roland going bankrupt. They pushed the G70 out the door before it was ready. Sounds like they were desperate for cash. When a company focuses on cash instead of their customers, they get in trouble.
No Vocal harmonizer and no organ flutes. How will it compete with the ole PSR3000 or with the new PSR3100?
Starkeeper

There are some rumours about Roland's financial troubles, but they are probably exaggerations.

Still, I look at Technics, who made exceptional instruments and were a major force in keyboards...they are now a defunct company.

I sincerely hope Roland remains in the game....competition is what forces the others to improve their product.

Ian

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Do you think that users choosed PSR3000 mainly because it has vocal harmonizer and organ flutes?
One could say that E-50 will have some features (MakeUp Tools, Cover, Guitar Mode, etc.) that PSR doesn't have.
There is a lot of things on arranger keyboards and each user has its own needings and preferences.
I think that E-50 will have its winning points and its market, against or beside PSRs.

actions speak louder then words.

Roland are going to have problems with the G70 being MI and the rest being CK......

CK dealers typically discount FAR less than the MI division, so I would expect to see G70s in around the $2800 range and the E80 at around $4200 plus.

Now the E80 is a better sounding keyboard than the G70, but NOT $1400+ better.....

Roland got some nerve pricing the E80 at $700 MORE than a T2's MSRP..... no sampler, no HD recording, etc., etc..

You know me, I love my G70, but Roland's marketing division got their heads up their....... well, you know......