New information received on the PSR1000 and PSR2000 keyboards to be released by Yamaha this September/October. Check them out!
http://svpworld.com/2000review.htm#new
http://svpworld.com/1000review.htm#new

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Simon
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Simon G.K. Williams
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Thank you for your great informations

The newest news implies that the PSR 2000 will have a capacity for about 20 user styles. All of this keyboard's functions put it in the professional class with the best arranger keyboards except storage.

Now 20 slots can be filled very quickly. So my question is how do you add a style when the flash memory is full. Can you quickly replace an existing style (Wonderful). Or do you have to first erase styles to add space for new styles (Horrible!). The second option would be too embarrassingly time consuming to execute during a performance. For performance purposes, one would be stuck with the 180 factory styles plus the 20 stored in flash memory.

I'm waiting for someone to explain in more detail how this memory works.

Larry

No one can do that Larry. It's not released yet! As for me - I'm sure that I could do a very entertaining show with well under 180 different rhythm styles. Back in the day - when I used stand alone drum machines, 20 or 30 patterns were plenty. I'm sure the 180 will be enough to "get by".
I'm waiting for one of these too, and Yamaha has been very helpful with every question I sent so far. Contact yamaha support with your queries. They are a great company to deal with.

I contacted Yamaha about a week ago and they couldn't tell me anything about the keyboard. Maybe they have more info now.

The thing is, with my PSR 740, I have access during a performance to as many styles as I can fit on a floppy. Sure, it takes a few seconds to load the styles, but it gives me time to talk to my audience. If with the PSR 2000, I only have convenient access to 20 user styles during a performance, from a performance standpoint, I have no reason to upgrade from the PSR 740? The whole reason I've been waiting for months for this new keyboard to come out is that I've been hoping I'll have access to more user styles during a performance, not less!

I'll try contacting Yamaha on Monday, and hopefully, they will have a way of conveniently loading styles when the flash is full.

Larry

The Yamaha engineer for high end PSR series keyboard told me 1 megs dedicated to style storage for psr2000 . Here is his email ...perhaps he will answer .....shinichi@emi.yamaha.co.jp
His name is Shinici ITO .........Good luck .
Dan o

It would seem to me that you are not considering the overall technology improvement. I'm betting there will be many new gains available with this new keyboard. I know that the 740 was a great gain over the 730 and so on. I'm sure Yamaha give us a substantial new tool to work with. Afterall, they want us to trade in the old and go for the new.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Guardman2001:
[B]It would seem to me that you are not considering the overall technology improvement.When the 740 replaced the 730 the ROM was increased from 6 to 12Mb,a substantial boost in sampling, but apparantly I have been informed that the psr2000 will come with 16Mb of ROM.Now taking into consideration that it is utilising several sweet and live voices that would mean that the extra 4Mb is dedicated to these alone.The result?Probably the same 12Mb as the psr740.Hardly a major step forward!Do you not agree?I would have thought that with falling prices in sampling technology that it would not be unreasonable to expect around 20~24MB as the norm for a keyboard in this price range(£850).Also why is the amp section still 12w?Come on!!!

Contrary to what I have written, I do recognize that there will be some major improvements with the PSR 2000 over the PSR 740. 12 watt per channel speakers instead of 6 watt per channel speakers is one of them. 180 styles with a break and 3 intros and 3 endings as opposed to 160 styles with 2 intros and 2 endings is also a significant improvement. There are improvements in the amount of voices. There are improvements in the sequencing features, even though I don't understand why people would want to do sequencing with their keyboard when, with a cheap version of Cakewalk and a computer you can do 100 times more much more easily.

Contrary to what others have posted, I think the PSR 740 is an excellent keyboard for the money. My audiences go crazy over the music I make with this keyboard. What other keyboard in this price range comes with a vocal harmonizer? Sure I wish it had a hard drive, but then many people wouldn't be purchasing the PSR 9000.

My biggest frustration with the PSR 740 is the lack of storage space for styles and the difficulty in loading new styles. I want to have access to more user styles during a performance. If the successor gives me access to less, because I have to delete styles in flash ram in order to load new styles, and if the size of the flash ram is just 700 kilobytes, then I'm best off keeping my PSR 740.

Now if the flash ram is 1 megabyte, then that's fantastic. Problem solved. Or if you can easily replace loaded styles, then that is great too.

I will email the representative of Yamaha, and hopefully, I will get an answer to this vexing question within a few days. If anyone finds out about this question sooner, please post it.

Larry

I missed the boat. The speakers are 12 watts total, just like the PSR 740. Too bad. Oh well, I perform with outboard speakers anyway, and they're plenty loud for my needs.

these are exactly the reasons that i did not choose yamaha. Not enough storage for user styles, very weak sound system, no midi-thru.
I think even the 9k sound system sounds weak, other features in the 9k and 9kpro are very good but it's just too much money for me. (must admit that i love their "soft" voices)

What else can you get for around $1000 with vocal harmonizer and 4 variations per style? I happen to like the quality of the sound on the PSR 740. And if you're nimble with your fingers, it doesn't take that long to load a style from a floppy, especially if you arrange your song titles in alphabetical order on the floppy. So the 3 USER styles are a bit misleading. For performance purposes, I can use as many styles as I can fit on a floppy.

All in all, I think that the PSR 740, with vocal harmonizer, 160 great styles, four variations per style, one touch setting, multipads, direct access, and hundreds of very realistic sounding voices, and can almost be carried like a brief case - I think it's an incredible, even astonishing, piece of technology.