OK, I give up trying to use the editor on my Tyros for songs I've recorded live (same was true with my PSR 2000). I recorded MIDI songs back in the 80's with first generation MIDI programs on my Mac Plus that were MUCH easier to use than the Tyros editor. Granted, the Tyros uses a hardware editor, but this is also 20 years later.

Don't get me wrong. I love the Tyros. I just find it impossible to edit songs with its built-in editor. I've only been able to edit single notes when I'm lucky.

One thing in particular that I don't understand is why it won't accept transpose changes when recording in real time. How do you do that? And punch in and out does NOT pick up the accompaniment. Is there some secret to that?

The manual is really lame when it comes to specific instructions for recording. And I have not found anything online that goes into the details of editing songs using the Tyros editor. It's probably too much of a nightmare for anyone to even explain.

I'm ready to buy a modern PC-based sequencer. I've held off for a long time. I just want something to edit my songs - mostly fixing simple mistakes like chords, single notes, and transpose. I don't need lots of features.

Can I record real time on the Tyros, then edit it easily in a sequencer on my PC? Or should I record directly to a sequencer on my PC? What program should I buy? Cakewalk? Does OMB do this?

May the voices of experience on this forum help me!

Though I'm not the voice of experience by any means, here's a link to those that are, all the instructions are detailed and easy to follow. I agree, the manuals are a joke. Take a look at PSR-Tutorial and those questions will likely be answered. Though the lessons were set up for the PSR series of boards, much of the information also applies to the Tyros as well.

Hope this helps,

Gary

The editor in Tyros is quite limited. Your experience is not unique. Most users migrate to a PC based sequencer for editing, but not always initial recording.

The problem with recording directly to any of the sequencers is that the Tyros does not send the voice setup data that you might have setup. What is worse, it is very hard to duplicate it by selecting voices etc in the sequencer. All this is because the PSRs automatically setup DSP,Eq and other parameters when a Preset Voice is selected in the instrument. When the same voices is selected in Cakewalk or one of my programs, all you get is the basic voice without the effects, etc.

If you are comfortable recording on the PSR, then the easiest choice is to record there and edit using a PC sequencer. Cakewalk is the most popular, but without use of a program such as Chord Assist it will remove the Yamaha Chord Events that you normally see after a Quick Record. XGWorks will preserve these and has the best support for XG files, but it is more difficult to use and few users are able to assist you with whatever problem arise.

I hope that this is of some assistance.

Regards,

Michael

I use power tracks pro to edit midi files for a couple of reasons:
It's cheap
I've used it for 10 years so the upgrades are easy for me to understand and
everytime I get a new keyboard I don't have to learn a new system of recording and editing.
I know there are more sophisticated proglrams out there but I don't use half of what this one will do.
I did learn to change voices and volumes on the Tyros and to me that was hard enough.