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#168543 - 02/24/05 01:56 PM Re: logitech z 5500 on it's way
travlin'easy Offline
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Originally posted by SemiLiveMusic:
One more, Gary. Say for small gigs like I use the 2200 for now... if I were using the 5500, are you saying at the same volume (apparent) level, the sound would be dramatically superior? More clarity or whatever?

Yes. Keep in mind the number of speakers being used and the amount of head-room available with the 5500 in comparison to the 2200 is significant.

I was thinking that it would very interesting to test the 5500 against a Bose PAS. $300 versus $2000. There is no way to know unless you try it but for singer-songwriter dudes like me, people go nuts over that Bose system.

The Bose PAS system is incredible, and in no way would I compare the Z-5500 to a pair of PAS systems--there is no comparison. However, you must keep in mind that you'll shell out $5,000 for a pair of PAS systems v/s less than $300 for the Z-5500. If you have sufficient jobs to warrent the expense, the Bose would be the way to go. If not, the Z-5500 is a good second choice, especially for smaller venues.

I am getting a similar result with my 2200 setup... (room coverage and no monitors required). The speakers are flared on the stand, so they cover the whole room. And I get the benefit of no monitors because the speakers are behind me. I have had no trouble with feedback.

Since I began using quality mics, I've never experienced a problem with feedback.

I figure the Bose is better but I wonder if it's 7 times more better than the 5500. It just might be a helluva secret, these cheesy Logitech systems.

I know this... people comment on how good it sounds. And I certaily don't know what I'm doing.


Good Luck,

Gary
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#168544 - 02/24/05 02:12 PM Re: logitech z 5500 on it's way
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Well, the Bose system for a singer-songwriter would not be $5,000, it would be $2,000. Plus tax. One pole, one sub. But sheesh, the 5500 and a mixer = about $300.

The Bose is supposed to have some kind of less die-off effect, where the sound you hear 4 feet away (behind you) is about the same the audience hears.

I forgot something else about the Bose... people rave about the clarity. It would have to be light years better for seven times the cost.
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#168545 - 02/24/05 02:14 PM Re: logitech z 5500 on it's way
Bernie9 Offline
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I'm glad you two had this dialogue going. I just ordered a Z5500 from Amazon.I also love my Z2200, but playing next to a 25 pc band for dances with 150 people was just a little too much for it.

Gary, I'm going to need a little help too with setup suggestions. I will checkout tutorial as well.

Thanks guys
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#168546 - 02/24/05 04:36 PM Re: logitech z 5500 on it's way
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Bill,

The Bose PAS system must be heard to believe the hype--it's all true. The sound you hear with your jammed against the speaker pole (sound colum) is the same level as the sound you hear 60 feet away, even when there is a partial wall between you and the performer. I traveled 3 hours to hear it, and I suggest you do the same if you're serious about buying one. However, keep in mind that if your keyboard has a stereo output, some stero sampled sounds will not sound as rich or full in mono as they do in stero, thus the reason I mentioned a pair of them. And, you hear exactly what the audience is hearing, regardless of where you are in the room, 4 feet away or 100 feet away, or sitting on top of the speaker. It's the same everywhere.

Bernie,

I'll be more than happy to help you with any questions you may have.

Gary
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#168547 - 02/24/05 05:42 PM Re: logitech z 5500 on it's way
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I'm using the Z5500 system thanks to Gary and set it up the same as he did. I've only used it out once, so far since I've got it, that was in a room about 40'X 80' with 10' ceilings and about 80 or so people, I ran a midi and walked the room beforehand, and noticed no matter where I went the sound was close to the same as about 15' away from the setup. The volume was a little less at the back of the room, but not a lot. These puppies really work, and I don't know how many wanted to know if the sound was bose and was it coming from those tiny speakers and raved at the tremendous stereo sound. The 10" sub sure makes a difference. Happy camper here. Thank again to Gary.

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#168548 - 02/25/05 03:18 AM Re: logitech z 5500 on it's way
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I have been searching for the pictures of Gary's setup. I can't seem to find them.
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#168549 - 02/25/05 07:00 AM Re: logitech z 5500 on it's way
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#168550 - 02/25/05 09:44 AM Re: logitech z 5500 on it's way
Bernie9 Offline
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Hi Mike
Thank you for the site. I never would have found it.

Bernie
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#168551 - 03/04/05 04:46 AM Re: logitech z 5500 on it's way
Bernie9 Offline
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I just got my Z5500 and it is better than the Z2200. For one thing,the leslie effect would not come out with the Z2200,but is very clear with the Z5500.

I cannot figure out how to get more than two speakers to sound with a single stereo source,however. Gary,or anyone know the answer ?

Bernie
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#168552 - 03/04/05 06:28 AM Re: logitech z 5500 on it's way
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Registered: 01/19/04
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I Just recieved my system also and I really like it even though I have not spent that much time with it yet as far as tweaking sub woofer levels vs. eq'ing the keyboard differently.
As for the stereo thing, In the effects section, you can choose from different setups. Stereo, (which uses just one pair of satelites) Stereo2 (which uses all 4 satelites) And the movie and music choices which will include the center speaker and surround sound balances. I hope this helps you.
Would explain in greater depth but running late for work now.
Good luck
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