I was forced to use the Logitech Z2200s again Saturday night. I had two jobs so close together that I didn't have time to set up between, so I set up a kb stand, stool and the Logitechs at the supper club. After the earlier job all I had to move in was the SD1.
Anyway, the place was extra crowded Saturday and I was having second thoughts about using the Logitechs.
The last time I used them I though I heard some distortion and I wasn't getting the volume I expected. Anyway, this time I was in such a rush that I accidently turned the volume well up on the Logitechs. As a result the volume of the SD1 had to be kept low. ShaZam (as Captain Marvel would have said), the sound was loud, clean and clear. I got many compliments from regulars and strangers alike. (Also $100+ in tips). There were maybe 70 folks in the room and I had ample volume to spare.
Before I had the volume on the keyboard (at that time a Tyros) well up and the volume on the Logitech system pretty low. Seems it works better, at least with the SD1, the other way.
Makes me think I might try some of those 5500s after all.
DonM

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Interesting obsevation/experiment. I think I'll give that a try with my z5500's and see if I like them any better.

Don & Scott,

I normally run the Z-5500 master volume at Boost-4 to Boost-7 and the sub at about 20 percent. All the satellites are set at maximum volume, and only once have I run the master volume at boost 11 (maximum). Most of the time, the keyboard volume is at 50 percent or less. Essentially, with the 5500 system, plus the additional keyboard speakers on the 3000, you're firing 10 speakers. This includes 5 satellites, 1 subwoofer and 4 onboard speakers in the 3000. That's a lot of speakers putting out a lot of sound.

Gary

I have heard Don use Logitech Z2200 speakers. Although he sounds good on any thing he uses these do sound excellent. We need Gary to design us a keyboard stand with the speakers and cords already attached and connected just roll-in plug-in with no hookup.

Don... interesting observation. My Logitech Z2200 has been in the closet lately and my SD1's been going into one Barbetta 32. What was the approx size of the room? Did you go straight into the Logitech or thru a mixer? Any echo/feedback?

Glenn

I went straight into the Logitech from the SD1. No mixer. I positioned the speakers slightly in front and angled toward the middle, just where I can hear them but still avoid feedback.
It is a pretty large room, but the acoustics are excellent. Maybe 70 people were there, some dancing, most dining.
DonM

I can do it, but I'll need a few weeks to figgure out exactly how to put things together so the entire rig just folds up and rolls away. Kinda' like the old shell game guys on the street corners with a fold-up rig that allowed them to get away when the cops arrived on the scene.

Gary

hank, gary has already shown photos of his logitech system, look here,mike,,,,,,,,http://psrtutorial.com/Resources/musictips.html

Hey Don, another plug for Logitech warranty and service. I called them up and told them one of the nut thingies on the back of the subwoofer broke off and asked how I could fix it. Appears it cannot be fixed, that it BROKE and is not repairable. They are sending a new system.

I didn't do anything unusual, it just broke off. I found the nut on the floor. So, I'd be careful with screwing the thumbscrews for that cable in.

Interesting about going straight into Logitech with no mixer. I've been using a mixer. But I do play guitar as well. Although, maybe I could try this. I used to have an adaptor, I don't what you call it. But it had two 1/4" female IN with a 1/4" male OUT. I'd plug that into my guitar and mic into that, go into the psr740 and it worked fine. For acoustic guitar stuff. I could try that again. Save messing around with a mixer.

As for Gary and his magic, that would be cool if you could do that. Very cool. As long as you could hear YOURSELF. Maybe the onboard speakers would be enough.

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Me Bill
Yamaha PSR2000

Hey Gang:

Just got off the phone with Richard at logitech. I checked on my replacement thats been on back order for 3 weeks. Richard said the reason they havn't got in shipments is they re/designed the cable to speakers system. They did away with the RCA plugs and went to a better system (supposedly) with larger gauge wire and different plug in's. And he said this was a big improvement for the Z5500 system. Didn't think to ask him if the other models were being changed out also?
He also appoligised about 4 times for the delay and said the new Z should be in hand in about 2 more weeks, and would be sent express air. Sure miss not having the use of them.

These guys at logitech are great!

Also he gave me the Toll free number not listed in any of their manuals etc. 1-800/ 231-7717

Cheers.....Pose

Bill:
I plug my strat into the mike on my 9k and use the onboard effects, get about any sound you want. Dsp,delay,echo,reverb,fuzz etc etc. Its lots of fun to play the backing using quick record,(or midi) then play the lead and double parts/or/rhythm on the guitar, while playing back. I use one registration set up for the guitar for quick entry each time. (If you play something worth saving just hit memory and a vacant registration.) I get the same results as a friend of mine who earns his bread with a guitar and backing that takes him hours and hours to build from scratch). Of course he's much better, he plays at clubs all over Northern Nevada.

Any other geeter pickers, out there with a electric, that hasn't tried this, Try it, its a Hoot. **Note** (turn the mike volume down then bring it up, some guitar pick/ups are hot).....Pose

Hi Pose!, This is interesting. I'm a guitar player that uses backing tracks made on my psr2100. Do you mean that you make midi backing tracks on the keyboard and play the guitar thru the keyboard? I know how to record the tracks in the keyboard...but how do you record the real guitar? Does it save as midi? I haven't tried this so i'm not sure how to do this but it does sound like a time saver. Usually i'll record all tracks using the onboard 16 track recorder and not using live guitar. If you could give me the dummies version i'd appreciate it...lol
Take Care, Larry

Larry,

Yes, you can plug your guitar into the mic/line input jack and play along with your midi file backing tracks--piece of cake, lots of control and it really will sound great.

You cannot record the guitar sounds into the keyboard because it's going through the mic/line input, which is an annalog signal. However, you can connect the keyboard to your computer and record everything that comes out of the keyboard as a WAV file using the instructions I posted at PSR Tutorial.com and get excellent results.

Good Luck,

Gary

Larry:

Gary explained this better and has it straight.
This is just for live guitar playing using the keyboard for the midi backup. It lets you save the guitar settings in registration, so its easy to just plug and play. Pose

Lazy as I am, I left the Logitechs set up Saturday night, so I didn't have to move equipment for Wednesday and Thursday. When I got there Thursday night, the place was packed, standing room only, and noisy.
I thought I might be in trouble with this little "underpowered" p.a., so I cranked it up a little. Wasn't long before they told me it sounded great but TOO LOUD! No problem. I can endorse the Z2200 even more.
DonM