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#170180 - 11/30/05 05:18 PM Ideas for Makeshift Flightcase?
zalmi Offline
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Hi there all,

I've not been able to find a second hand flight case for the Tyros, and I'm travelling soon to New York.

Has anybody had experience with flying a keyboard without a flightcase?

Is taking it on hand-luggage an option?

Is there a way to pack it in a safe way (even if it takes time and effort), without purchasing a flightcase?

Any ideas/experiences much appreciated. Thanks,

Zalmi
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#170181 - 11/30/05 05:30 PM Re: Ideas for Makeshift Flightcase?
chony Offline
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Hi Zalmi,

I'd be careful before I fly my Tyros around in "makeshift" boxes.

If you want to do it anyway, my suggestion would be to buy thick bubble wrap, wrap you keyboard with it and ship it in its original box.

Be aware that you're going to be paying overweight and oversize...

Chony

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#170182 - 11/30/05 06:47 PM Re: Ideas for Makeshift Flightcase?
zalmi Offline
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Hi Chony,

Why would I pay overweight and oversize? (You cake 40 kilo AFAIK to NY)
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#170183 - 11/30/05 07:13 PM Re: Ideas for Makeshift Flightcase?
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I would just buy a nice new flight case .....it will be a sad day when you get off the plane and your T2 is in pieces....
why take that chance?
http://www.casesandmore.com/asp/keyword.asp?MaID=&keyword=keyboard&command=dosearch

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#170184 - 11/30/05 07:26 PM Re: Ideas for Makeshift Flightcase?
Tony Rome Offline
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dnj:
I would just buy a nice new flight case .....it will be a sad day when you get off the plane and your T2 is in pieces....
why take that chance?
http://www.casesandmore.com/asp/keyword.asp?MaID=&keyword=keyboard&command=dosearch
[/QUOTE

I agree 100% with Donny.....don't take chances....
TR

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#170185 - 12/02/05 08:53 AM Re: Ideas for Makeshift Flightcase?
zalmi Offline
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Thanks Donny and Tony.

What do you think though about taking it on as hand luggage? Would they let? I'm just very squeezed money-wise, and trying to save £150 or so.
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#170186 - 12/02/05 09:06 AM Re: Ideas for Makeshift Flightcase?
Tony Rome Offline
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When I bought my Tyros from Wisconson, I had it wrapped in the plastic bubble wrap
then put into the gig bag from musicans friend stuffed with the whtie styrofoam pelletts top bottom and around all sides
then it was put into a heavy duty cardboard
box with more cardboard and styrofoam and it arrived here in Cozumel Mexico safe and sound in 1 peice...this was through Continental Airlines.....like anything else, you take your chances...if you ship it, please buy insurance for it....good luck
TR

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#170187 - 12/03/05 01:21 AM Re: Ideas for Makeshift Flightcase?
Nigel Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by zalmi:
What do you think though about taking it on as hand luggage? Would they let? I'm just very squeezed money-wise, and trying to save £150 or so.


Nope, no way they'll allow anything even half that size go on as hand luggage. Sorry to break it to you but you will have to ship it as luggage and a cardboard box really won't cut it. It'll most likely end up with broken keys or worse if you try that.

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#170188 - 12/03/05 08:12 AM Re: Ideas for Makeshift Flightcase?
Tony Rome Offline
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Zalmi.....you can get a ATA travel case on e-bay for $50.00... http://cgi.ebay.com/ATA-CASE-for-YAMAHA-...1QQcmdZViewItem check it out...
TR

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#170189 - 12/03/05 04:51 PM Re: Ideas for Makeshift Flightcase?
zalmi Offline
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Thanks Tony for the good advice, and Nigel for the warning. I do have insurance for the keyboard but if the risk is that high, I think I'll not do it.

I'm flying tomorrow :0 please G-d, so it looks like it'll have to stay in London.

If I'd seen something like the sale you just mentioned, Tony, that shipped to London, I would have definitely jumped for it.

I'll let you know if I did manage to get it over on Monday.

All the best,

Zalmi
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#170190 - 12/03/05 05:05 PM Re: Ideas for Makeshift Flightcase?
Tony Rome Offline
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Zalmi...Nigel....I shipped two keyboards this way.....My PSR 3000 was shipped from California to Texas and then shipped here to Cozumel Mexico...My daughters Yamaha EZ 150 that I bought her back in June I think, was shipped from Mass to texas then shipped again to Cozumel Mexico with out a bit of problems.....that bubble wrap if reall great
more so when it used in addition to styrofoam...what ever you decide, good luck to you and let's hear more music....have a great time in NY.....Including My Tyros shipped from Wisconson the total stands at 3
TR

[This message has been edited by Tony Rome (edited 12-03-2005).]

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#170191 - 12/04/05 02:20 AM Re: Ideas for Makeshift Flightcase?
Nigel Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tony Rome:
I shipped two keyboards this way


I guess I have just heard too many horror stories of music gear getting broken even when shipped in hard shell cases to risk sending it by plane in a cardboard box. Usually that seems to be OK for UPS or FedEx shipping services but International airline luggage handling seems to have a poorer reputation. I think I'd be tempted to use a shipping service ( like UPS or FedEx ) to send it on ahead than trust airline baggage handlers.

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#170192 - 12/04/05 02:28 AM Re: Ideas for Makeshift Flightcase?
trident Offline
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Registered: 08/22/04
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Loc: Athens, Greece
I have a friend working as ground crew. If his stories are an indicator, don't ship it in a cardboard box. These guys are overstressed and supervisors holler "faster-faster-faster, go go go."
They go in as SWAT teams, get the luggage and go. They just don't carry guns. Don't trust them.

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#170193 - 12/04/05 11:57 AM Re: Ideas for Makeshift Flightcase?
Fran Carango Offline
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If flights are involved,,a quality flight case is a must..You will get a return on your investment[in one piece too]..

Quality is a must also...I wouldn't wear a $2 helmet instead of a high quality helmet for racing or what ever...why would we do this to our boards..
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#170194 - 12/04/05 01:56 PM Re: Ideas for Makeshift Flightcase?
mikeathome1 Offline
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Registered: 08/23/04
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Loc: Syracuse NY
I think shipping through a shipper, like fed ex or UPS is safer than shipping with an airline or using the airlines baggage.
I have sold a half dozen keyboards on ebay and after packing them like Tony said, and using fed ex none was ever hurt.
However I wouldn't want to ship the same keyboard more than a couple of times using that method.
If I was gigging,roadies in and out of the van, setup teardown, flight case is the way to go.

[This message has been edited by mikeathome1 (edited 12-04-2005).]
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#170195 - 12/05/05 11:19 PM Re: Ideas for Makeshift Flightcase?
zalmi Offline
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Loc: London, UK
Hi all, thanks for posting

I'm posting from New York now; the last post I read before leaving was Tony's last post, so I decided to pack it in its box and take the risk, as it's insured. I arrived a bit late for my flight, so they told me to put the luggage in at the Gate, and there they didn't ask questions - so I didn't pay any fees. I put on fragile stickers, and it came out on a seperate conveyer belt in JFK.

So Tyros is sitting here next to me and looks fine (still have to get adaptor for it to try it - but it looks like its fine). So thanks everyone, and especially Tony!

Zalmi
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#170196 - 12/08/05 10:42 AM Re: Ideas for Makeshift Flightcase?
zalmi Offline
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Just to let everyone know, I have tried the Tyros and everything seems to be fine, so thanks again Tony!
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#170197 - 12/08/05 04:57 PM Re: Ideas for Makeshift Flightcase?
Tony Rome Offline
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Loc: Cozumel Mexico
Happy Days....don't thank me, thank God...enjoy NY and your T-2...keep us posted .and good luck...
TR

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