Midi implementation. How well does your Keyboard do it? Here is a song I would like to post that showcases not only the XG Alto Sax but Midi implementation in general on the Tyros. The song is called "I Can Fly" and after you listen to it you will believe you can fly too. If nothing else I hope this song will make you at least begin to flap your wings.

I also wanted to post this song for Boo. Since Boo plays the Sax I thought this song would be an excellent source for practicing material. And somebody else may want to use it during a Gig break, etc.

Okay Korg and your Pa1X PRO - Pony Up! Anybody who owns a Pa1X PRO care to showcase your Keyboard's Midi capability by recording a Midi with no holds barred Midi implementation, ie., put the Pa1X PRO's best foot forward and see how well it stacks up in regard to Midi playback capability.

Or any other Brand Keyboard. Come on guys, DON'T BE SHY!! Roland is suppose to be the King of Midi. Oh Yeah! PROVE IT! Ketron will blow everything else out of the water. OH REALLY? Technics has sublime Midi implementation and sounds or so they say. >> Why did they go belly up then??? Besides the fact that their prices were outrageous. Could it be also that the vast majority of people didn't get excited all that much over their sounds either?? Even though their Keys are full size? UD?? Well? GEM Genesys/PRO, where art thou?? Let me hear what you've got in the way of "pull out all the stops" Midi implementation and playback capability. I double dare ya'! Where's all the competition?!?!? Casio?? --- Oops! Next in line please? Step up to the plate boys!!! Did you all realize that what you hear in the way of Midi playback on your Keyboard is also possible for the Keyboardist himself to acheive and attain that same sound quality capability and results by simply playing the Keys and using those same Voices whichever they may be? Hummmmm??

The mp3PRO version is for those on a dial up connection. Enjoy:

I Can Fly

I Can Fly mp3PRO Version

Best regards,
Mike

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Mike
Nice cut and sounds. Even before hearing Boo's response as a sax player, I can readily hear this is a keyboard sax.

By any chance were you a pit bull in another life? I love my Tyros big time, but man when you get a hold you don't let go and are even over selling me on the Tyros.
Terry

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Mike,

Good cut, but in order to sound like a real sax you need the improv riffs and runs that sax players use with this type of song. I know a guy that can do this, and he does it so well with the 2000 that it really does sound like a sax--and a damned good one at that.

Thanks for sharing,

Gary

Mike (keybplayer).

You didn't specify whether this was a commercially produced midi sequence, or if it, and the sax lead was recorded by you. Please advise. Thanks.

Scott

Hey Mike, I hear the "sax" player trying to work his magic, I also know it is hard to do[I can't, especially for a long duration],We keyboard players have to think too much like a horn player, breathing, phrasing, fingering correctly, range of the instrument, and most important a sax patch without the fake vibrato, we need to control with breath control and aftertouch to sound realistic..All this is very hard to do..The best I have seen is Eric Persing[Roland]demo showing of a Roland S-50 sampler with breath controller...
As for SMF playback, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Roland "GS" instruments are the best..I think you just confirmed it with the Tyros.
I have used every instrument manufacturers best[Yamaha,Korg,Solton/Ketron,Technics,Roland etc,] and the overal clear winner is Roland GS keyboards[not Roland GM boards]..
A nice effort to show the Tyros sax in realtime play..

Since you asked.
www.Generalmusic.us/Genesys%20Ensemble%20Demo/MP3/grover.mp3

Now I am trying to be fair, this "song" was just Pad music for a demo, so this really wasn't meant to showcase any sounds in the instrument as this was intended to have voice over the music.

Enjoy!

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I'm personally a bit disapointed with the 'solo' sax sounds on Tyros, but on the other hand, the Tyros' 'sax section' voices sound quite impressive imho:
http://www.yamaha-tyros.de/demos.php

Scroll down to Tyros 'Voice Demos' section and have a listen to the 'LIVE Sax Section' with acoustic bass, trumpet, brush kit demo. - Scott

Mike,
To be honest a synth sax will never sound like the real thing, but, by the way the synth is played we can come quite close. A LOT of expression is needed while playing. I currently use a 2100 and I'll try to post a sample of what I mean.

Listen closely to Stan Gets and you will understand or Boo can explain better... it is never a single note played as in piano... kinda like a slide guitar where the note is reached by "moving to it from somewhere else" or a harmonica which sounds more realistic when you use the bender.

Also, the use of (2 in yam / or more -multilayers as in korg etc) can enhance the the output tone. Listen to a layered Sweet Harmonica + whistle or Sweet tenor + Growl sax (adjust volumes, octaves, pan, effects etc to desirable levels) and use modulation and bender. also remember to come to the note (accidently brush one other note before hitting the real note like, for C do EC where the E is soo slight and quick that it is felt but not noticed !! (just an eg.)

Playing ANY OTHER instrument on the keyboard involves a LOT of pratice and FEEL and excellent ear. getting the equivallent sound out is only accomplished by technic and our satisfaction is our reward !!

ATB

michael

Scott
The "sweet soprano" to me is awesome for my tastes of th Kenny G sort of sound. It's one of my top 3 favorite sounds on Yam's that have it.
Terry



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Wow there are some many versions of R-Kelly's song "I believe I can fly" out there.. Not too sure on the sax on this one. I think it sounds like a keyboard. I think that the sax solo on this one should not have stuck so close to the melody. A song like this needs a lot of improv from a sax player, and a crap load of runs.. A sax really brings the song out, but I think the solo to this one was a little plain.. It needs more life. If I can dig it up I got a midi from a friend a few years ago.. He's a mean keyboard player, and he did this song with a sax as the solo.. He did a really good job.. If I still have it I'll post for everyone to hear.. Not sure if I still have it though.. Haven't listened to that file in a long time..

Squeak

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