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#173826 - 03/03/04 01:38 PM Re: Sax done right... :-P
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Brickboo,

Ditto. A good player can make anything sound good. I have seen it happen many times.

And I can't count the times when I've seen a performer who (whom?) I thought couldn't play his or her way out of a paper bag only to hear the audience just eat it up. As long as they are being entertained, they are happy.

So for the most part it doesn't matter what instrument is being played as far as the audience is concerned. And I agree with you that probably the only person that really cares is the one playing the instrument unless the audience consists of fellow musicians.

Occasionally I get booked for a gig where I am only expected to provide background music and not have any real contact with the crowd. In those cases, it certainly wouldn't matter if I was using the latest technology or simply brought my son's Little Tikes xylophone piano and had a couple of balloons to bang against the mic for rhythm. (Hmm, I might have to give that a try).

Anyway, most of the time I think I am my best audience, and I definitely know what sounds good, so I appreciate the fact that I have a great instrument to play on. I mean let's face it, most of us do this because we love it, and it is even more enjoyable when you like the instrument you are playing on.

Dave

[This message has been edited by WDMcM (edited 03-03-2004).]

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#173827 - 03/03/04 01:49 PM Re: Sax done right... :-P
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
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Originally posted by WDMcM:
So for the most part it doesn't matter what instrument is being played as far as the audience is concerned. And I agree with you that probably the only person that really cares is the one playing the instrument unless the audience consists of fellow musicians.
Anyway, most of the time I think I am my best audience, and I definitely know what sounds good, so I appreciate the fact that I have a great instrument to play on. I mean let's face it, most of us do this because we love it, and it is even more enjoyable when you like the instrument you are playing on.


Nice observations & very true statemnts....
read it over & over my friends...
Truer words were never spoken!!



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#173828 - 03/03/04 07:40 PM Re: Sax done right... :-P
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Registered: 10/27/03
Posts: 2417
Loc: CA
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Originally posted by Dnj:
Nice observations & very true statemnts....
read it over & over my friends...
Truer words were never spoken!!



I agree with Dave that knowing what sounds good is imperative for the Musician playing the instrument[s]. But I disagree that the audience is somehow less concerned or savvy when it comes to authentic instrument sounds. Although you can get by with playing a Casio WK series Grand Piano patch and the audience may enjoy it for the most part, when a truly authentic and superb sounding Acoustic Grand Piano Voice is played, the audience's reaction will most assuredly enliven and you will see the reaction on their faces that says: "Hey, that Piano sounds Wunderbar! (Wonderful)! - and I am really enraptured and enthralled by this sound experience I'm listening to!" That same reaction would be a stretch when the instruments you are playing sound less than what an authentic natural (as apposed to an electronic instrument) - should sound like. People aren't dumb. They know what an instrument should sound like for the most part and any deviation from authenticity is definitely noticed by them and your performance will suffer accordingly depending on your Keyboard's ability to produce authentic sounding instruments.

Best regards,
Mike



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#173829 - 03/06/04 02:35 PM Re: Sax done right... :-P
brickboo Offline
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Registered: 02/04/01
Posts: 2071
Loc: Fruita, Colorado, USA
I contend that the patrons are listening to the vocals and the songs being played. Not to how much the sax sounds like David Sanborn’s sax. Many in the crowd may even go as far as to ask the person next to them, “why do they try to play that stupid sax sound on a keyboard?“ Ha! Ha!

Keyboard, if what you are saying would be true, Dexter Gordon would have made the most money for the best sounds produced on a Sax when he was alive, and Jimmy Smith for the best organ sound so on and so forth. I bet those two along with Coltrane, Rollins and Getz, who probably made the most money of all the sax players; all put together didn’t make as much money as Paul, George, John and Ringo's butlers. Vocals and being an entertainer win hands down. Maybe 1% or less of the folks there will be interested in how much the sax sounds real and it could be because they have an interest perhaps in buying a keyboard.

It’s like the stereo argument. The stereo is for the guy doing the entertaining. The crowd in a hall will never know the difference in mono or stereo, especially if it a big place and the reverb is bouncing every which-a-way

I challenge you to a contest. You get who ever you think is the best player on the forum and give him whatever you think is the best sounding keyboard to play any instruments you want all night and I'll take Donny or Dave and I don't care if they even sing with crappy midi files, we'll let the audience decide who they liked best and I’ll bet $10,000 that the best keyboard player you know, playing the best keyboard to your taste, won’t even come in second in a two man contest. Ha! Ha!

I get all of this crap from hustling pool for 12 years in New Orleans. Put in another perspective from a pool hustler's point of view, your guy won't have as much of a chance of winning as a mule in the Kentucky Derby. Ha! Ha! Gottcha again!

Keyboard just trying to get a laugh. Hope you think this is half as funny as I do. This is what use to go on in the pool hall all day. Talk about a rush, always standing or sitting with your back to the wall. It gave a sense of what Doc Holiday’s life was like. With adrenalin flowing like that, we didn’t need any drugs. All I did was drink coke and eat the hot sausage. Those were the days my friend, I thought they’d never end.
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#173830 - 03/06/04 04:05 PM Re: Sax done right... :-P
Burkels Offline
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Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 319
Loc: Alkmaar, The Netherlands, Euro...
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Originally posted by keybplayer:
Okay Korg and your Pa1X PRO - Pony Up! [...] Roland is suppose to be the King of Midi. Oh Yeah! PROVE IT! [...] Ketron will blow everything else out of the water. OH REALLY?

I don't really see why you want to make this a competition between brands, but as far as the song goes: Sorry, I'm not at all impressed. If this is the best the Tyros can do, I think I'm very very pleased with my keyboard.

It is not about "what's the best keyboard". It's all about "what is the best keyboard for me."



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