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#174605 - 03/27/02 10:53 PM A Silly Question for PSR2000 Owners !
Scottyee Offline
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I've owned my Yamaha PSR2000 for over 4 months now and must always first load a Registration Bank & Reg Memory before any sound can be heard from the KB. This procedure has become a 'second nature' habit for to me now, but I somehow recall (when I purchased the KB?), that I was able to initially power and then play it (hearing the sounds), without having to load in a registration bank first. Is this just wishful thinking on my part, or are others of you able to initally power up and play the PSR2000 (hearing sound when playing the Keys) without having to load in a Registration FIRST? Thanks in advance for your response. - Scott
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#174606 - 03/27/02 11:11 PM Re: A Silly Question for PSR2000 Owners !
Joe Waters Offline
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You must have changed something, Scott. When I turn on my PSR2000, it comes up with Heartbeat style loaded and as soon as I hit a key, off it goes launching into Hearbeat -- a style, I'm not particularly wild about. But, all the sounds play perfectly fine.
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#174607 - 03/27/02 11:14 PM Re: A Silly Question for PSR2000 Owners !
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Registered: 11/24/99
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the keyboard should always come on with the grand piano sound. If not, you've glitched something. Hold down the highest white key while turning on the unit and this will initialize the keyboard back to it's factory settings. You will not loose anything in the user memory when you do this. After doing this you should be able to turn off the keyboard and then on again and you will hear the piano. If not, you've got a problem!
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#174608 - 03/28/02 12:08 AM Re: A Silly Question for PSR2000 Owners !
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Thanks Guys for the quick response.

I guess it wasn't 'just my imagination' that I remember my PSR2000 working the way Joe Waters described, a while back. I guess the problem I've been experiencing has been going on for some time now as it's become such a routine habit for me to get to the gig and load up my custom registration memory bank first thing, that I hadn't given it a thought that it used to play without loading up a Reg Memory Bank first.

Actually what appears to be happening, on my 2000, is that (on initial startup), the Heartbeat style, as well as the Grand Piano patch is loaded (appears in the LCD screen), but that NO sound is heard. In fact, the ACMP starts up (the start button flashes) and style begins, just NO sound. I press the different OTS buttons and the Main/layer, and left selections change accordingly, but still NO sound. Once I load in a custom Registration Memory Bank though, everything works fine and the sound starts up, and changes correctly when the OTS buttons are changed or the style/sound selections are made manually. Everything continues to work correctly until I power down and then up again. Sounds like some kind of glitch on startup. I also reset the keyboard to factory default settings per George's instruction, as well as doing it via the Utility function window (system reset) , but this did not correct the problem either. Funny thing is that everything else about the keyboard seems to be working fine (no glitches). Funny thing is that I've kind of grown to like this glitchy problem, as having no sound at initial startup avoids having the Heartbeat style sounding inadvertantly (on stage) when setting up before the show. Still, I'm now wondering if I'd better send this back to Yamaha to avoid any other undesireable future problems which could relate to this. The other glitch (bug?!) on my PSR2000 which I've grown to like, is that the LEFT voice is stored with the style parameters, in Reg Memory Contents, rather than with the Main/Layer voices. This effectively allows you to freely switch the Reg Memory buttons (changing the Right/Layered parts) yet keeping the Left Part frozen. With the more recent ROM version, all voices are stored in the same place in Reg Memory Contents, so it's not possible to do this.

I'm sure these problems will require that I ship the KB back to Yamaha in Southern California and being without it for an extended period of time. Because I use the keyboard professionally on a daily basis, I'm now trying to figure out what to do. Does this mean I have to purchase another PSR2000 now? Now I wish I hadn't sold my Technics KN5000 so quickly. Any recommendations or suggestions?

Scott

[This message has been edited by Scottyee (edited 03-27-2002).]
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#174609 - 03/28/02 03:40 AM Re: A Silly Question for PSR2000 Owners !
Rodrigues Offline
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Registered: 09/20/99
Posts: 95
Loc: Portugal
Hi,

Have you already tried to reset the keyboard (page 151 - owner's manual)?
Set all 5 boxes and Reset.

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#174610 - 03/28/02 03:53 AM Re: A Silly Question for PSR2000 Owners !
jedi Offline
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Registered: 02/07/02
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Loc: Merrimack, N.H.
Hi Scott,
I get the same as "Joe and George" but mine dosen`t start do anything until I press a bunch of buttons to set-it-up or "organ sounds" , thats what I use the most. Funny thing on this end is that your only supposed to have 8 banks "right" well last night I was "playing around" with the paramiters and although they are not compltely full I have 9 registrations The board is very strange, no folders just banks 1-9 . I tried storing a 10th but it ended up "stuck" between 1+2. So I don`t know what to say it`s a bummer having to get stuff repaired (even if Yamaha flips - the- bill, which they should.) You have helped me in the past I`m sorry I can`t you now, but I do wish you the best of luck O-BTW you had a KN6500 at one time right? did you like it?
I`m trying to decide if I should "put-up" with the 2000 or spend a ton` o-money to get somthing that I can play without programing it every time I hit the power button But your right about one thing "sometimes you don`t like something , but after a while you learn to live with it. But in the 2000`s case that would require a long long time of putting up with,
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#174611 - 03/28/02 07:55 AM Re: A Silly Question for PSR2000 Owners !
Uncle Dave Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
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Loc: Penn Yan, NY
Scott,
Do you have your footpedals connected at start up? If you do, then the default assignment of volume must be set and your custom registrations call for sustain. At power up, the keyboard is probably getting a "zero" reading from the footswitch that is assigned to to the upper sound. Try it without the pedals connected, and see if that changes anything.
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#174612 - 03/28/02 08:52 AM Re: A Silly Question for PSR2000 Owners !
Scottyee Offline
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Joe, George, Rodrigues, Jedi, and Uncle Dave:

Thanks to ALL of your for your quick responses, and a very 'special' BIG thanks to you Uncle Dave for explaining 'exactly' what the problem WAS. If I leave the footswitch disconnected (at startup) everything works fine. I now remember (light bulb) when this all began. I had switched Yamaha's default sustain pedal assignment from pedal #1 to pedal #2 a while back, because I needed to use the SAME pedal to trigger pitch bend as well, as for some strange reason, the PSR2000 only allows you to assign pitch bend to pedal #2. Coincidentally , it was Uncle Dave who had suggested switching the sustain pedal assignment to #2 in order to have pitch bend & sustain triggered from the SAME pedal). I'm so grateful I don't need to send my keyboard in for repair now. I was really beginnng to start breaking out in a sweat. Thanks to the support of all you wonderful friends on this board, it's back to happily gigging with the PSR2000. This KB realy is awesome, despite some of its minor quirks. - Scott
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#174613 - 03/28/02 09:06 AM Re: A Silly Question for PSR2000 Owners !
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Scott,

Wake up call? I think you should get a backup 2k just in case. I'd feel naked without one.

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#174614 - 03/28/02 09:08 AM Re: A Silly Question for PSR2000 Owners !
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
Quote:
Originally posted by jedi:
Hi Scott,
I have 9 registrations
jedi

Jedi, The PSR2000 contains 8 Registration buttons per Registration Bank, but . . .
you can also optionally set up the keyboard to load 'multiple' banks of Registrations as well. If you are seeing more than 8 registrations, I somehow think you've got your KB configured to load up another Registration Bank when you've reached the end of Reg Bank #1.

Jedi, as a longtime Technics keyboard devotee myself, I still would recommend you STAY with the PSR2000. Though the KN6500 is certainly a great keyboard, it is more than double the cost of the PSR2000. I'm confident that you will be able to easily conqueor the problems (confusion?) you're having with Yamaha's Reg Memory. PLEASE email me privately and I will spend some time with you (possibly on the telephone) to explain how to configure the PSR2000's registration feature to work for you. - Scott
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