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#176035 - 11/10/02 09:51 AM Re: Tyros Availablility Update
Dreamer Offline
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Registered: 02/23/01
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Don,
of course I was making a joke (see the blinking eye?) and I know very well what a Guinea pig is (I am ashamed to say that when I was a student I have "worked" with all kind of rodents...) :-(
Nonetheless, "Italian stallion" is definitely better... Do stallions test keyboards?
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#176036 - 11/10/02 10:18 AM Re: Tyros Availablility Update
Bluezplayer Offline
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Registered: 11/10/00
Posts: 2195
Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
Quote:
Originally posted by DonM:

Back to the subject: it has been my experience that Yamaha Japan does not communicate fully with Yamaha U.S. Our guys here at Yamaha U.S. seem to be caring, sincere and well-qualified, but they are at the mercy of the honchos in Japan.
That's just my impression, but it's one developed over years of "wait and see" answers after owning approximately 12 PSRs.
Most likely I won't worry about it anymore, since it is not my plan to buy any more, unless they come up with something that it far better than the other companies' offerings.
DonM



Don,

This has been my experience as well, ( far less PSR's than you but still the same experience ). I'm out of the PSR market too, except that I might pick up a used one that has been " battle tested " at some point. Then again maybe not, if I can live with the XD9. It's too bad too, because there are certain things that Yamaha arrangers have going for them that others don't. Today's marketing pressure seems to dictate that the rush is on to get the product out there, or promise to get it out there, before it's really ready to go. Those of us that have been around these boards have all seen this before, and it isn't just Yamaha. Korg shot themselves in the foot with the PA80 by releasing it with an OS that had almost nothing in it and was hard to operate in it's early releases. It got a lot better as the upgrades were released, but a lot of players were already turned off by the board and had already sworn off of it. In all that though, they never addressed the one flaw that they KNOW we were unhappy about ( The 2 fills per style and lack of smooth transition in some styles between variation and fill ) .

Another thing that becomes an issue for me is that Yamaha knowingly targets their arrangers at the home market. I don't care at all what the opinion of another player is as to what boards are "pro" or not, but I have to wonder when the company does it if it affects the way they treat the customer of the board... It never should ( a customer is always someone putting food on your plate ) but, my experience with the 2000 led me to believe that it does.

AJ
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#176037 - 11/10/02 07:45 PM Re: Tyros Availablility Update
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
Yamaha must be punished. I shall skip the Tyros, keeping my options open for future developments.
If you have stock in Yamaha, please consider selling because my decision may well cause it to drop drastically in value.
DonM
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#176038 - 11/10/02 08:10 PM Re: Tyros Availablility Update
trtjazz Offline
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Registered: 08/01/02
Posts: 2683
Don,
LOL.....uh is this considered insider trading....if so, I never read your post ....honest.
Terry
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#176039 - 11/11/02 06:04 PM Re: Tyros Availablility Update
George Kaye Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 3305
Loc: Reseda, California USA
Yamaha US knows nothing about all these rumors (if that's what they are) of any known holdbacks of shipments because of problems. It was news to Yamaha when I spoke with them today. Tyros is on their way here to the US as I type this in. If there is anything that would keep Yamaha from selling these units, Mark Anderson in the PKB department would or will hear about it, but as of today, he has heard nothing but that they are coming.
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California
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#176040 - 11/12/02 07:20 PM Re: Tyros Availablility Update
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
Thanks George,
I don't mean any harm or disrespect. I just enjoy a little Yamaha-bashing.
I hope they arrive today! The checks in the mail!
DonM
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