Well looks like the Super Articulation voices on the T2's have already been replaced, and they didn't give them to the Tyros owners--you'll have to wait until the T3 comes out.

The new Motif series has Expanded Articulation voices. These go beyond the SA voices and give the user more control over various nuances (something I've been complaining about in terms of the current SA voices)

This info comes directly from Yamaha as well.

Hi Squeak,

It is always good to see anything improved and shared among the other divisions.

I guess you'll be getting yourself a Motif...looking forward to a review.

Ian

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Sqeak where did you read this info?
link?

Donny,

TommyF had a post on this a few days ago.

Ian

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And here is some more information posted by a Yamaha official over at the Motifator forums:

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MOTIF XS
Well, first and foremost Happy New Year to every one at Motifator.com.

Since the cat is out of the bag, we will try to fill in some details and answer some questions about specs. However as many people here have already commented the only way to really judge an instrument is to play it yourself. T

The new Motif really needs to be XSperienced.

The official announcement of the XS is scheduled for January 10th so there will be more information coming in the next few weeks and then at NAMM, people will get a chance to see the XS in action via web casts.

The XS is a part of the Motif tradition and so as with all Motif products if focuses on three things.

The sounds
The ease of song creation
Computer Integration

In terms of the sound, there are a lot of things that are new.

The 355MB wave ROM includes a huge amount of new wave forms. These were developed based on the priorities for sounds that came out of the research surveys that we did here on the site.

There is a new, very large three velocity layer Acoustic Piano that includes support for half damper and the insert effect for sound board resonance found in the S90 ES. There are also new Electric Piano waves as this has always been a request.

One of the other major areas that we focused on was orchestral sounds. There are brand new ensemble and solo strings and a complete set of woodwinds. People on the site had identified this area as one that they wanted improved from previous Motifs.

The orchestral waves take advantage of the new Articulation TG System. This allows for 8 element voices and includes key off samples, true Legato wave switching, wave cycling and a new assignable function. It is simply impossible to get the level of sonic detail that the Motif XS achieves with a 2 element architecture like that found in some of the competition.

Each Voice can have three groups of elements that can switched on or off by the 2 assignable function buttons above the pitch and mod wheels.
These can be used to create one voice that has normal strings, pizzicato and spiccato in one voice that can switched via the AF 1 and 2 buttons.

Another technical improvement to the sonic palette is the inclusion of Virtual Circuit Modeling effects like those found in the DM2000. Virtual Circuitry Modeling technology rather than simply attempting to approach the desired sound using conventional digital audio methods, actually models the analog circuitry... right down to the last resistor and capacitor. This technology was originally developed at Yamaha by Toshi Kunimoto and his group, the same sonic wizards who created the VL1 and VP1 — the world's first physical modeling synthesizers. VCM technology goes well beyond simply analyzing and modeling electronic components and emulating the sound of old equipment. It is capable of capturing subtleties that simple digital simulations cannot even approach, and in fact creating ideal examples of sought-after vintage gear. This includes not only studio effects like vintage compressors and EQs, but also vintage pedal effects including flangers, wahs, phasors, etc.

On the synth side, there are four intelligent arpeggiators that can be used in each voice and many of these Arps actually have 8 velocity zones. Again you’ll have to hear these to evaluate for yourself. As far as other synth features, there is wave cycling so that elements can transition between different waveforms (think Korg Wavestation).

Okay, now for some news that may stir up some posts. The Motif XS does not support PLG boards. We looked at this long and hard. We supported the forum when there was a call for a new Piano PLG card and got Yamaha Japan to develop it. However, the PLG cards were not particularly successful in the market. The basic architecture was developed almost 10 years ago and had certain inherent limitations. The ones that some people are most passionate about (the VH and VL boards) were not that successful partly because they need more expertise to use (knowledge of vocal harmony settings in the former and use of a breath controller in the latter). The VL which focused on solo wind and brass is partially addressed by the new 8 element voices with note offs and legato.

The VH is replaced by an on board, built in 10 band Vocoder. The Vocoder allows up to 128 notes of harmonies to be created from the keyboard and also is of course useful for cool synth effects as well. It can be used in Voice and Performance mode and recorded directly into the Integrated Sampling Sequencer.
We realize that the decision to stop support for PLG cards in the XS will not sit well with some people, but we always have to balance legacy support with the need to move forward.

As far as easy of song creation, this is where the XS has taken huge steps. There are 4 intelligent arpeggios that care run simultaneously. There are over 6000 arpeggios included.
There are two kinds of Arps. ES raps work exactly like the Arps on the current ES. XS arps have chordal intelligence so they can do a lot of things that were not possible. Combining these two types of arps along with Performance Controls to control them allow a level of interactivity that has not been available before. You’ll have to wait and see it to understand how powerful it and direct performance recording really are. Rather than trying to detail how to tie your shoes in the next few weeks we’ll show you just how easy it and powerful it is. This is what is really new and unique about the XS and you’ll just have to wait a bit to see it in action.

We did not include a hard drive or RAM because these are much more inexpensive to purchase as computer accessories. The XS supposrts standard DIMM for RAM and both USB 2.0 and Ethernet for external storage. However all of the sequence memory is now flash so MIDI data is retained after power down.


For computer integration, the XS features complete Digital Connectivity (USB .20, Ethernet, Firewire, and SPDIF). The MOTIF XS8 features built in Firewire connectivity based on mLAN but focused on easy to use peer to peer connectivity. There is very fast loading and saving via USB2.0 and even faster load and save via Ethernet. The Motif XS is a true Ethernet network device and can be accessed via standard Ethernet network protocols. The DAW Remote Control has vastly improved partly because of the 8 knobs and 8 faders, but mostly because of the Full-Dot Color Graphic LCD (320x640). There is a special version Cubase that will be included with the XS that we will be talking about in the coming weeks. It has features specially designed for the XS in it.


The display gives you access to much more information on each page and the hand on user interface gives you the speed to work quickly.

If we can summarize the general consensus of opinion here on the site , it is that Motifs have a learning curve , but after that they are quicker to work on than other workstations. With the XS, with the larger displays and some core improvements to the user interface and work flow we think we have achieved something that can be instantly gratifying , yet still allow you to work in depth when you need to.

There is lots more , but hopefully this post will hold people for awhile until we can get some more graphics and demos up in the coming weeks.

If you have specific questions , post them here and we will try to respond as quickly as we can.

Happy New year !

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Kind regards,
Tommy


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Thanx IAN..........
great info....I guess we'll see very soon whats NEW!!!

Makes me wonder what Yamaha will include in the PSR3100 that should also be out soon.
Yamaha marketing department must have made some difficlut choices.
1) Include these new voices and take sales away from the T2? Na.
2) Give the PSR3100 some SA voices? Probably.
3) Guitar chord strumming technology in the PSR3100? Should be interesting
Starkeeper

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Starkeeper, just follow Yamaha's pattern since the release of the original T1.

T1-(mega voices)--however, these voices did not have the (manual) playability that users desired.

PSR-3000 release (after T1) now has better designed user playability with mega voices.

Tyros 2 release (Super Articulation)

Motif XS--Expanded Articulation--more indpeth user control over nuances within SA voice.

Given this pattern I think it's without question that the PSR-3### will have Expanded Articulation.

[This message has been edited by squeak_D (edited 01-01-2007).]

The PSR-3000 replacement will be called the PSR-S900.

It is strongly rumored to have SA voices, plus a few new styles that aren't on the Tyros2.

It will be out in May-June of this year.

Ian

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Ian if that's the case then I say bummer because if following the number line then I would assume the S-500 replaces the PSR-1500.... Am I correct in that assumption? If so, I say bad move Yammie, as the S-500 as stated before is the poor mans PSR-1500. I can't imagine Yamaha releasing another board between the S-500 and S-900. Any info leaks on that?

Ian....any rumors on S900 features, voc harmony, better speakers, buttons , sliders, two mic inputs, weight, etc etc ?

Cant wait

Squeak, the S500 is a new model and does not replace a current PSR.

The PSR-S700 will replace the PSR-1500...the PSR-S900 will be the top of the range and under the T2.

Donny, I haven't been able to get much info lately as Yamaha has been closed up for the holidays...perhaps when things get back to normal.

Possibly the PSR-S900 will be at NAMN.

Ian

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Ian keep me posted if ya can .....maybe by next Xmas they'll be available....its worth the wait.....I'm not in rush being I can't even find or demo a E80/Pa800/SD5 anywhere around here at this time.....

Ian,
Let me correct you. The PSR-S500 replaces the PSR-1100 as stated on many web sites.

I hope the new Motif XS will inspire composers all over the world to produce better pieces of music. It sounds as if the XS could replace an entire orchestra. If only it didn't have so steep learning curve I might consider it for my classical type of music.

Donny, it is my feeling that tells me Yamaha is branching the PSR series into S series and E series. The latter have sliders and arpegiators which help produce very interesting pieces. Check it out PSR e403 demo

George

George,

I can assure you...the PSR-S700 will replace the PSR-1500.

The PSR-1100 was out when the PSR-2100 was current a few years ago.

Ian

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Nice demos thanx for the link George...
I guess we'll see very soon whats on the horizon....

Just another tidbit...

For chord players wanting the use of ON BASS or being able to play slash chords...the PSR-S500 does NOT provide for this.

The older PSR-1100, and PSR-1500 had this feature and were more pro orientated.

It is highly likely the PSR-700 and PSR-900 will have ON BASS ability.

Hope this helps.

Ian

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I hope they put the VOC HARMONY LITE & ON/Off button back ON DECK also....Argggg

2 mic inputs with sep vol control to

I'll think of more

Some of the stuff proclaimed above reminds me greatly of my retired Ensoniq SD1, which had (up to) 6 element per note sound generation technology, elements switchable by buttons near the modulation wheel. Admittedly it only had 28 sound generation elements so using 6 elements per note gives you a huge 4 note polyphony.. but what notes!

Squeak,

Does this mean you are going to buy an PSR S900, T3 or Motif, or all of the above?

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This is getting exciting. Can't wait to see what the S900will feature. I'm sure Yamaha will not disappoint.

I wonder if the MOTIF ES will be upgradeable to XS standards like the original MOTIF could be upgraded to the ES...any speculations?

Tim

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Gary, I will without question be demoing the new Motif's when they come out. As for getting all three Yeah, my wife would have me sleeping with the fishes for sure.

I'm however, "quite" pleased that Yamaha has expanded the Super Articulation voices though. The things I felt were missing seem to have been fixed with the new Motifs.

What I am VERY interested in are these new orchestral voices on the new Motifs. Those sound very interesting. However, I never thought I'd say 128 note poly would concern me, but seeing 8 element voices--Yikes! They're gonna have to start bumping poly up to 256 soon.

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I agree - it's getting exciting.

I must admit I reached the point where I am unlikely to buy a current model (by Dec 2006) and wait and see what's next. I was offered a PSR-3000 at a good price but I turned it down - It is like buying a 3-year-old computer.

I am looking forward to extended video demonstration of the Motif XS.

Regards
George



[This message has been edited by George V (edited 01-02-2007).]

Not physically upgradeable as in installable software or hardware, however Yamaha reps on the Motifator.com forum have stated that they will again offer a "loyalty program" where existing Motif ES owners will be able to get some sort of upgrade discount to a new XS. It will be similar to the program they had that allowed Motif owners to upgrade to the Motif ES.

Current owners of the original Motif will not be able to upgrade directly to an XS via the loyalty program.



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Pictures of the new Motif XS? Don't know if these are legit. The article posted in this thread from motifator speaks of assignable buttons above the pitch/mod wheels. I don't see that in these pictures. Either way, it fun to drool at.

http://www.gearjunkies.com/news_info.php?news_id=1671

Squeak.... most of Yamaha's SA voice technology concerns sample SWITCHING, not sample layering, so these new voices should not use significantly any more voices than the current ones.

But yes, it is possible to layer insane amounts of sounds together and eat just about ANY polyphony limit.... but who would want this? (OK, me! but I'm crazy....)