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#178974 - 01/05/05 01:28 PM Re: Finally Purchased a 'Music Pad Pro-Plus' Music Viewer !
Dnj Offline
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Originally posted by Uncle Dave:

If you read alot, I can see justifying the purchase of such a gadget, but I stand by my decision to perform as much as possible from memory. I don't want to rely on a crutch, even if I only need it once in a while.


100% agreed Dave....take away the all the sheets and look into the audiences eyes
memorizing is a powerful tool on stage!!

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#178975 - 01/05/05 05:19 PM Re: Finally Purchased a 'Music Pad Pro-Plus' Music Viewer !
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Originally posted by Dnj:
100% agreed Dave....take away the all the sheets and look into the audiences eyes


Donny, if that's the case, you guys are going to need to STOP relying on your laptops as a crutch as well. - Scott
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#178976 - 01/06/05 08:32 AM Re: Finally Purchased a 'Music Pad Pro-Plus' Music Viewer !
Uncle Dave Offline
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My laptop is a jukebox for breaks or DJ work. No crutchs here!
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#178977 - 01/06/05 12:48 PM Re: Finally Purchased a 'Music Pad Pro-Plus' Music Viewer !
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Face it! Uncle Dave. You rely on crutches too:

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Originally posted by Uncle Dave:
I have a NotePad file ( Word has too much wasted space in the doc )that takes up about 1/2 the screen. A simple push of the "enter" key opens it up, and I move the cursor into the scroll bar .... that way, the page down" button works in a flash.
There is always a second or two that you can move your hands around, so when a page turn is needed....just reach up - hit the page down and BAM! you're there. Rarely do I have more than 2 pages .... they are only lead sheets or lyric sheets, not notation.


Can't READ music eh?!

Lead sheets, lyric sheets, notation or whatever, these are all onstage crutches we ALL benefit from using (from time to time).

Scott
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#178978 - 01/06/05 01:36 PM Re: Finally Purchased a 'Music Pad Pro-Plus' Music Viewer !
tony mads usa Offline
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Is an Arranger Keyboard a crutch?!?!?
t.
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#178979 - 01/06/05 10:09 PM Re: Finally Purchased a 'Music Pad Pro-Plus' Music Viewer !
Uncle Dave Offline
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Originally posted by Scottyee:
Uncle Dave. You rely on crutches too


Sorry - nope. I often don't even turn on the pc till it's break time. I've played most night without it at all. I hate crutches, and never rely on them. That's not saying that I never use a lyric or chord chart ..... it's just an extremely rare, and isolated event.

I think music is for pit bands. The front man should never read on stage. Or at least ..... never get caught reading.
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#178980 - 01/07/05 06:43 AM Re: Finally Purchased a 'Music Pad Pro-Plus' Music Viewer !
The Pro Offline
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Uncle Dave - sincerely - WTF are you doing here if you don't want to talk about the MERITS of the Music Pad Pro? This is a valuable topic to some of us, yet you waltz in here making yet another series of your narrow-minded statements just because YOU don't use music on stage. Does that mean the rest of us can't even talk about it without hearing from almighty you? Music is a crutch? Centuries of great musicians have used music on stage and still managed to entertain their audience - you could learn a lot from them if you weren't so limited in your view. I don't understand your need to put down other people's choices when it comes to playing in favor of your own except that you are an arrogant and self-absorbed individual.
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#178981 - 01/07/05 06:49 AM Re: Finally Purchased a 'Music Pad Pro-Plus' Music Viewer !
Uncle Dave Offline
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Esh.... These are opinions, pal. Many readers need alternate takes on a subject to determine it's validity and usefulness for them.
I have certain ideals about stage presense, and I stick to them. My thoughts about reading are not isolated to my stage either.
No need for ruderies ( WTF ).
I'm just adding my part to the mix. You wanna go buy one of these things ..... you'll be better armed in the decision because of these varied posts.
Variety is the spice of life, right?
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#178982 - 01/07/05 07:10 AM Re: Finally Purchased a 'Music Pad Pro-Plus' Music Viewer !
Tom Cavanaugh Offline
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U.D. I'm going to have to agree with Esh. It is not a sin to use music, fakebooks and charts during a performance.

I play a song a few times and can then throw away the music. My wife who is a very accomplished pianist and pipe organist can't play Happy Birthday without a chart. The ability to not use music is a gift that not everyone has. Our lead trumpet player who can play anything in any key can't sing Proud Mary without the lyrics even though he's sung it 300 times. These things are gifts.

Esh can we take the anger down a couple of notches and knockoff the profanity? Neither are really necessary to make your IMHO very valid point.
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#178983 - 01/07/05 07:29 AM Re: Finally Purchased a 'Music Pad Pro-Plus' Music Viewer !
Uncle Dave Offline
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Tom,
Reading is no crime, in fact I know many players woule be lost without charts. I just feel very strongly about the "front man" approach, and as a solo entertainer, I'm definately out in front.
And I'm sure that if your trumpet player really wanted to ... he could memorize Proud Mary. It's a case of priorities. It must not be that important to him.
The benifits of memorizing a song go so much farther than just allowing eye contact. It allows the performer to "connect" more fully with the song without the barriers of sight.
It's just one take on it, but your opinions are always well stated.....unless you're making fun on Don Mason or me !
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