Hi Jos,
found your conversion table for the drums. This is going to save me a heap of work.

There may just be a minor problem.

The drum tables on my keyboards are different to yours on OMB
ie

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kn7 start at

C-2 = 0 etc
thru to ( c1 =36 = Bass Drum)
G8 =127
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GM

D#0 = 27
thru to (c1 =36 = Bass Drum)
E5 = 88
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PSR

C#-1 = 13
thru to (c1 =36 = Bass Drum)
G5 = 91

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OMB

C0 = 0

thru to

G10 = 127

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I tried a couple of conversions, but I had to do them under decimal, not notes.

If I'd done them via note conversion, and followed the drum kit table in my manual, they would have been incorrect. ie I would have been 2 octaves out.

My Psr Drum table was downloaded from a psr manual.

Either way, being able to do this ( even under decimal instead of note) is going to save me a heap of time, and the fact that I can also alter the velocity of the drum note (wow)

thanks again for a great program
best wishes
Rikki

Rikki, you are such a generous person. You could be letting Jos off the hook for creating a few translation tables within or for OMB. But who knows it may be Rikki who develops the translation tables from Yamaha to GM. I would take that too!!!

GNMidi is the 'Swiss Army' knife for midi files. It has many features for changing, fixing, etc. midi files including transposing designated notes per channel. You can take a look at the following site:
http://www.gnmidi.com/

The XG to GM drumset conversion table is available at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/onemanbandgroup/files/

Jos

Jos, you also are a generous person!!! I will test it and let you know how it works on my system.

Thank you for all your work on our behalf.

Frank L. Rosenthal

Jos, I tested a couple of Yamaha styles on various GM Wavetables (Ntonyx, Sonic Implants, Utopia)and, and........IT WORKS so much better.

For each style I had a minor job trying to figure out which is the correct drumkit to use (standard, jazz, brush, etc.). To do this I used CasmEdit and the job is done. Fast & Easy. In addition, there may be some tweaking needed with the Brush Kit, e.g., brush swirls/slaps/taps, etc.... but it is close.

For my system this provides me the opportunity to migrate from Soundfonts to higher quality sounds - especially the drums. Plus I have other high quality alternatives to LiveSynth Pro available to me, e.g., Hyper Canvas, VSampler, Sample Tank, Sonic Reality, Plug Sound, and others.

Jos you made my day.

Thank you

Frank L. Rosenthal


[This message has been edited by Frank L. Rosenthal (edited 11-23-2003).]

Frank,

I'm happy when you are.

Rikki,

I'm using the "old fashioned" midi notatation that starts with C0. You just have to subtract two octaves from any note that is diplayed in OMB to get the notation that you use.

If you have adapted some styles to the KN7 sound it would be nice to see them appear in a special KN7 directory in the onemanbandgroup forum.

Jos

[This message has been edited by Jos Maas (edited 11-23-2003).]

Hi Jos,
I've done a couple to date, but they're not really psr conversions ( they're a mixture of BIAB, kn & psr style parts ( morphed , I suppose you'd call it) and actually not created using OMB.

I'm hoping to get some styles done using the OMB features like track import etc and that ever so handy drum conversion table feature. When I do, I'll be posting them to my kn7 yahoo style site and I'd only be too happy to post them to your site as well, but they'll be in kn7 format, is that actually of any use??

I better join the forum.

best wishes
Rikki

Hi Frank,
looks like we're both finally set, which is wonderful. Safer to let an expert like Jos do it ( I just downloaded his GM set also). My main aim is to get the drum setups to match my kn7 ( a fair bit of work, but going to be a real time saver for me, in the long run). Drum volumes has been my biggest headache. The psr and the equivalent kn7 drum , can have vary greatly in their volume,ie sometimes I end up with bass drums playing too loudly/softly, or brushes drowning out cymbals. Being able to adjust individual volumes is going to be so handy.
It used to be such a headache adjusting them note by note.

thank you for the link to the gnmidi site.
First up, I would have tackled the GM set, but, fortunately Jos got in first ( one less for me to do and a handy reference point.)


best wishes
Rikki
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Frank L. Rosenthal:

Rikki,

No, I don't think the KN7 format will be usefull for OMB users.

Jos

Jos,
Could you please elaborate from which
keyboards the original Arabic styles you mention are from?
Also, for those Arabic styles from Yamaha,
could you also please tell me on which
channels the drum tracks are usually on?

I would like to assemble a soundfont that
has all the Yamaha oriental drumkits(much
like Frank has done with all the standard XG kits using SynerGigs). This would insure the
ethnic styles sound as they should, since
too many sounds have no counterparts in GM, GS, or standard XG kits. I am not necessarily interested in having the highest quality sounds available(at this time), but just want to use the original styles with their original sounds.
Thanks much for any assistance.