After using the Tyros for close to three weeks, I have become almost totally comfortable with it. However, I have a couple of questions.

1. How can I set the microphone DSP effects to be "remembered". I want the mic dsp (#6) to stay on Delay - Echo - 25. I have tried saving it to registration, marking and unmarking parameter lock and registration marks. I have saved Mixing Console overall settings to User memory. No matter what, it powers on to the default of T. Delay and must be manually changed each time. After I change it, it will remain as long as Parameter Lock is marked. I can save the level, but not the effect.

2. I have the optional Tyros speaker system and it works well, except the overall volume isn't very strong, even when the Tyros volume knob is set wide open. The only way I've found to boost the volume is go into the Mixing Console, go to the overall e.q. page and at the bottom right of the screen, increase the "Overall Volume" boost. This does raise the output level, but I'm wondering if this is the only way.

3. I haven't read the manual about the Tyros speakers, but I'm wondering if any other speakers, rather than the Tyros ones, can be attached to the outputs without doing any damage. I know the sub bass is self-powered, but the two satellites seem to be passive and derive their power from the Tyros.

Thanks,
DonM

Don, I have Tyros also. Did you try naming the registration before saving ? also, try saving to the hd if you have one installed. There are some things that will not save to registration, so i guess you'll have to read the manual to find out what, here, where. I think you can save the mic dsp effects, but i have not tried that for my personel settings. Bob

Hi Don, With the 'effects' tab selected in the "Mixing Console (Panel Part)" Window, select 'TYPE" (J-button). This takes you to the window where you select the parameters for: Block, Part, Category, and Type.

In addition to setting the 'Block' to: DSP6, Category to: Delay, and 'Type' to: Echo, you must also REMEMBER to set 'Part' to: 'Mic'. I suspect that you may have forgotten this IMPORTANT setting step and that the 'part' setting was set to: OFF by mistake. Once you've set the 'Part' paramater to 'mic', you should now be able to save your custom mic setting into Registration. You need to of course also remember to make sure the 'Registration Memory Contents': 'mic settings' group box is checked before saving to Registration Memory. I hope this solves your problem. Let me know.

Scott

Thanks Scott, but I've done all that, in fact several times. I have to select the necessary setup each time I power up. I have checked and unchecked registration save boxs and parameter lock settings, but to no avail.
Does anyone change the mic DSP settings from the default? I can't imagine anyone using the ridiculous tempo delay very much, at least the way it is set up at power on.
It only takes a few seconds to change it each time, but is still a nuisance.
Thanks,
DonM

Hi Don,
I don't know if it works the same way as my 9000pro but in order to get my preffered mic dsp settings, voices, style etc on power up I set the board up how I prefer it then do a system backup. (This stores system information and panel settings into flash memory) Then when I power up the board is exactly how I want it.

Hope this helps
Tony

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Don, which Tyros OS version do you have installed? I have OS version 1.20 and able to save your specified prefered mic DSP settings in Registration Memory. Unlike Tony though, on powerup, these settings are not retained. I must load these settings in my default registration memory file on startup. - Scott

Thanks guys, I don't know what OS version I have, but I'll check it. I will try the system backup because I need to do that anyway!
Don

Don,
You just have to set up ONE registration with all your settings, and load that b4 you play. C'mon, don't be lazy now. Quit yer lollygaggin'...........

don, just a thought a while ago someone suggested ,(i think it was phil from psrtutorial)connecting the speakers into the headphone socket of the keyboard and those that tried it was very impressed,not only sounding louder but apparently clearer, check the old posts,mike

hi don,i found the previous post,go to psrtutorial,accessories,date 20 dec2003,subject improving sound from YST MS50 SPEAKERS and the write up was done by phil,,,mike

don,also phil has a tyros,maybe you can email him if you have any queries,mike

Dave, I've done this. It will save everything EXCEPT the mic DSP. It should work the same as 2000-2100, but so far I haven't been able to get it to do that.
I'll check the OS today.
Don

Don:
http://www.yamahapkclub.com/tyros/download/os_verup/os_verup.htm#usb

Okay Don here you go. I will give you the settings I use on my Tyros that will get it to "stay" for you in Registration to the "User" memory area. Of course my Tyros has OS version 1.20 so if yours doesn't then it may not work for you. I recommend you upgrade to version 1.20 first because there are bug fixes and other enhancements in version 1.20. But it might work with an earlier version OS too.

Are you ready?

Okay, this is how I got it to work with my Tyros. First thing on Power Up I changed the default Style from Live8Beat to Cool8Beat. That is my preference but you may want to keep the default Live8Beat. Next go into Digital Recording/Song Creator/Channel and scroll down to #5 (Set Up). Under SELECT make sure just the top 7 settings next to SONG are selected and ALL the other ones below them are "un"-checked including the Mic setting.

Hit the Exit button twice to get back to the main screen. Then go into the Mixing Console/Effect/Type and set the Block, Part, Category, and Type to your liking, ie., DSP6 Part (Mic) DELAY and ECHO. Now without exiting the EFFECT screen push the FUNCTION button under MENU. Push "I" - UTILITY then go to Parameter Lock and make sure the 'Reverb Return Level' 'Mic.Setting' and 'Reverb Type' are "un"-checked. Hit the Exit button twice to get back into the EFFECT screen. Double check your settings then press the Registration 'Memory' button and choose a number 1-8 to the left of the Memory button. NOTE: Make sure after hitting the Memory button that "ALL" items in the Registration Memory 'Group Select' are "checked". Then press a number 1-8. Next, press the Exit button twice to get back to the Main screen. Press "J" 'Registration Bank' and then press 6 to Save your new Registration. Name the Registration if you wish and of course you'll have to Save the new Name too by pressing Save again. Double click your new Registration and then enable it by pressing the appropriate number, ie., 1-8. It turns red when you press it to let you know it's enabled. (You know that of course but I told you I'd give you a step by step procedure ). With the Registration 'enabled' turn off the Tyros, wait at least 10 secs. (to give it time for the Hard Drive to spin down completely) then Power On the Tyros again. Go into your Registration Bank and select your custom Registration. After selecting it, enable it and then go into the Mixing Console and see if you hit pay dirt.

Best regards,
Mike

[This message has been edited by keybplayer (edited 03-20-2004).]

Oh, btw Don. If you do an upgrade of the OS I recommend you use the Floppy Disk method. The USB way can be tricky especially with an earlier version OS. I upgraded my Tyros using Floppy Disks and it went smooth as silk. Make sure you follow the directions to the tee and you should have no problem. Print the instructions out and what I did was use a small empty 10 pack floppy disk container (cardboard type) and put all the Disks of Data from the OS upgrade into it and put it right on the floppy disk holder above the Floppy Disk Drive of the Tyros. That way they're all in order, in sequence and ready at hand.

Best regards,
Mike

Thanks guys!
Mike, I never tried going to the Song setup, but I will now.
Don