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#180939 - 07/14/07 04:36 AM Re: What new ARRANGER features would you LIKE to see?
flingers Offline
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I would love to see the added capability of adding more then one voice selection to left hand part so that you could if you chose to, layer left hand voices, just like it is possible with right hand voices.

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#180940 - 07/14/07 04:49 AM Re: What new ARRANGER features would you LIKE to see?
Ensnareyou Offline
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Loc: California
Quote:
Originally posted by flingers:
I would love to see the added capability of adding more then one voice selection to left hand part so that you could if you chose to, layer left hand voices, just like it is possible with right hand voices.

my thoughts


The WERSI OAS arrangers have multiple right hand voice layers (four), multiple left hand voice layers (three), and even the optional pedal board allows two voices to be layered from the OAS system. That's quite a lot of layers and makes for a rather large sound should you decide to layer that heavily.

[This message has been edited by Ensnareyou (edited 07-14-2007).]

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#180941 - 07/14/07 07:32 AM Re: What new ARRANGER features would you LIKE to see?
Fran Carango Offline
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Roland also 3 to the left and 3 to the right..also 6 across the whole ..
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#180942 - 07/14/07 09:09 AM Re: What new ARRANGER features would you LIKE to see?
GlennT Offline
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Registered: 12/01/02
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I'd like to see wav/mp3/midi integration and other Midjay features. Think it's coming.

Glenn

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#180943 - 07/15/07 01:01 AM Re: What new ARRANGER features would you LIKE to see?
Spalding1 Offline
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Registered: 12/14/05
Posts: 236
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Actually i dont really need new features for the arranger keyboards of today as a very large percentage of them i would guess are very nearly unused before a next instrument is purchased judgeing from the movement of instruments on this board. But what i would really ove he manaufacturers do is provide say a 5 disk dvd set that shows the features of the instrument from a musicians point of view. This probably wont ever happen because actually learning all the functions on your instrument would prevent us from buying the next "new thing " that has 80% of the features that we had on the last "old thing " that we did not use then and probably wont use now !

For me , definately the only thing i would need from the manufacturer is s series of instructional DVD's.
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#180944 - 07/15/07 02:09 AM Re: What new ARRANGER features would you LIKE to see?
sunny152 Offline
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Registered: 05/28/06
Posts: 206
Loc: ap
My future requirements for Yamaha PSR Arranger keyboards are:

1.All sweet,cool,live and mega voices to be replaced by SA voices.
2.MP3 player with atleast 64 MB internal storage.
3.USB Wav recorder cum player.
4.LiveDrums
5.Master compressor
6.Dual microphone inputs with individual volume controls.
7.Registration buttons to be increased from 8 to 10.
8.Adjustable LCD display.
9.Arabic/indian styles and instruments to be included.
10.sponge feel key action.

SUNNY.

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#180945 - 07/15/07 03:51 AM Re: What new ARRANGER features would you LIKE to see?
Irishacts Offline
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Registered: 11/18/01
Posts: 1631
Loc: Ireland
KARMA on the OASYS and M3 is light years beyond the abilities of any Arrange Keyboard. But it's implementation is not suitable for live arranger users methods of control.

I would like to see this technology developed so that it could be controlled to change in a grid format like Arranger keyboard currently do.

All that would be left to do at this stage would be to create GE's suitable for the Arranger market as the currently range of GE's are more suited for Dance Music.

Why KARMA ?.
Because it' generates the note data in real time. It does not use patterns. Because of this, you have an almost unlimited supply of configurations for creating a Style.

Regards.
James.

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#180946 - 07/15/07 04:30 AM Re: What new ARRANGER features would you LIKE to see?
Bluezplayer Offline
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Registered: 11/10/00
Posts: 2195
Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
Me too James. Been thinking and talking about that one for a while myself, pretty much since the inception of the original Karma, but I'm not sure how much interest there would be in it.

AJ
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#180947 - 07/15/07 08:32 AM Re: What new ARRANGER features would you LIKE to see?
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14266
Loc: NW Florida
OK, I'm reading a LOT of posts from people asking for features that already exist. Maybe on higher level arrangers than they own, but most of this is stuff that exists...

I really liked chas's suggestion for completely reconfigurable front panels. If you don't like the layout, change it! I'm not sure that the LEDs would really be necessary (and they would add a lot to the cost) because, if YOU went to the trouble of reconfiguring the front panel, you would probably remember exactly what you had done, but it is a great idea... And, it is ALL software. So easy enough for some manufacturer to implement. Probably every last one of us has sat and scratched our heads and gone 'why on earth did they put THAT button THERE? That's stupid...!" This would at least solve that problem. Nice one, chas...

OK... here are a couple of mine...

I LOVE the 'half time' button on Steinberg's Groove Agent drum software. One press, and whatever pattern you are playing gets a half time treatment. This is NOT just slowing the tempo down to 1/2 speed (for those of you that don't know what a 'half time' change is), but basically, the hi-hats or ride and probably percussion stay the same, but the kick and snare elements go to half time. It's a common trick for drummers and bass players, but I've never seen it on an arranger.

And I would still like to see the fills increased to one per transition. In other words, a completely different fill for each and every transition, AND a rotating fill-to-same. In other words, when you fill back to the same place, there are at least two fills that alternate. Getting away from the repetition of arrangers would be a lot easier, and I believe that style creation would be easier if you didn't have the problem of designing fills that transition smoothly to multiple destinations. IMO, that's one of the hardest things to do well on a style.

But anyway, keep them coming... Ideas that don't exist on ANY arranger, yet.

Who knows, maybe someone is reading this at an arranger manufacturer's R&D department...!
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#180948 - 07/15/07 12:20 PM Re: What new ARRANGER features would you LIKE to see?
cassp Offline
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Registered: 03/21/03
Posts: 3748
Loc: Motown
Quote:
Originally posted by Spalding1:
Actually i dont really need new features for the arranger keyboards of today as a very large percentage of them i would guess are very nearly unused before a next instrument is purchased judgeing from the movement of instruments on this board. But what i would really ove he manaufacturers do is provide say a 5 disk dvd set that shows the features of the instrument from a musicians point of view. This probably wont ever happen because actually learning all the functions on your instrument would prevent us from buying the next "new thing " that has 80% of the features that we had on the last "old thing " that we did not use then and probably wont use now !

For me , definately the only thing i would need from the manufacturer is s series of instructional DVD's.



Yes, yes yes. And yes again!!!

Every upper level arranger should have a database and systems manager that is either USB PC/Mac based or video linked to a monitor.

Roland or someone else needs to reissue a ProE feature-packed 37 note arranger keyboard.
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