Theres been aded a lot of Tyros2 demos in this forum, so its time for a G-70 demo I think.
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Comments are always welcome.

Regards Niels

Neils, as usual, your G70 song demos really shine. Realistically Dynamic, especially on "When The Saints Go Marching In". I also enjoyed your other contemporary sounding song. Which G70 OS version did you use when recording these, and how much tweaking of G70 sounds did you do? As I'm sure you remember, my biggest beef with the G70 when I auditioned it, was that the preset sounds were overly bathed in reverb. Either you removed this excess reverb, or a later subsequent update has finally addressed and solved the problem.

I'm really anxious now to checkout the latest OS version of the Roland G70 at NAMM next week, and will of course post a NAMM report when I get back as well.

Thanks again for sharing. Impressive work ! - Scott

Hi Scott

Thanks for your comments.

The reverb problem was solved with OS2.0.
I normally use about 5 minutes when I tweak a style. Its very easy with the Makeup Tools.

Looking forevard to your NAMM report.

Regards Niels

bump....

hmmmm . . . No other comments? Hope others here will 'take the time' to listen to Neils songs performed by him on his G70, and are as impressed as I was with them. - Scott

Just gave a listen to 'Saints'... very good and very REFRESHING! It's been awhile since I've heard anything other than a Yamaha or Ketron. Very energetic and live sound. Thanks for sharing.

Glenn

N -
Good job. Thanks for sharing. Send more
zuki

Niels ... "Saints" brought me right back to New Year's Eve ... ...
t.

Very nice. G70 is OK.

AHHH DIXIE LAND. LOVE IT.
the first band I ever played in was a Dixie Land band when I was still playing trumpet. I still love to play it on the keyboards. It still makes up a lot of my keyboard style of playing
Thanks for sharing your work on the G 70,
Best to you and yours,
Bebop

Glad I didn't px my G1000 for the G70.

Hi

Thanks for the comments.

Craig_UK,

Do you mean that the G-1000 sounds better than the G-70 or are you just kidding.

Regards Niels

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Hi!

As a former T1 owner I must say that this was among the best I ever heard on a KB!! The next one will definitely be a G70.

Thanks Niels for an outstanding perfomance.

/Mats

Very nice!! Great sound........its just a matter of getting deeply into your KB's features .......its the player that makes it sound good..Nice Job!!

Many great choices out there.


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Hi

Thanks for the nice commentes.

Mats,
The G-70 has become a very good keyboard after a couple of updates, so just go for it.

Dnj,
Your right, you have to work with a keyboard to uptain the sound you like.It´s very easy and quick with the G-70´s Makeup Tools.

Regards Niels

Hi Niels,

Though I have been playing Korg over the last five years I must admit that this time I am impressed by the sound of the G70.
The problem as I have stated many times is that with the G70 you simply have to do a lot of tweaking as to me it sounds pretty awful straight out of the box. But in the end it pays as is shown by your rendering of
When the Saints..........
A friend of mine has a G70 and though an excellent player he is lousy at getting the proper registrations. I myself have worked out many "performances" for the korg, freely made available thru the internet, ( user programs in Roland terms) and was wondering if you could provide him with a more decent set of user programs e.g. the ones you currently use yourself ?
And why is it that you are literally inundated with new and converted styles for all keyboards, in particular the G70 as well, and no decent new "user programs" (total registrations)????

kind regards,
john smies
Holland

Hi John

In the near future I will put some of my userprograms and tweaked styles at the G-70 Userclub Denmark .

Regards Niels

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The G70 sounds and styles are not leaps and bounds above the G1000 in order to make me lose money part exchanging and purchasing a G70, it's a major disappoinment in my opinion. It's about time Roland brought something decent out as the VA7 range (useless for live use) and G70 are not the do all and end all of arranger keyboards as they promised
Come on Roland get with it!

You are of course entitled to have this opinion. However, having played the G-70 intensively through the recent 13 months I couldn't disagree with you more! The G-70 moves far ahead of the G-1000 regarding styles and sounds! And BTW - comparing several other features the G-70 leaves it's competitors standing.

I think that Niels's demo is saying more than a hundred words. Thank you for the great demo Niels! Some of us listen to the demo and think to ourselves: this definitely sounds better than the G-1000....

Looking at this from a techincal view then both the sounds and styles ARE actually "leaps and bounds above the G1000"... just look at the specifications . the sounds quality has improved dramatically and, the amount of arranger part tracks has improved dramatically, adapting voicing has been introduced, the style concept has been redesigned etc. etc. In my view this speaks for it self And another thing... the G-70 styles are far more sophisticated than the G-1000. This is a simple fact (has nothing to do with subjectivity)!

However - it's fine with me that this is how you hear it. We all have different taste and I certainly respect that. I can just conclude that you can't hear nor see the improvements done here... strange as this is to me Out of curiosity: what arranger instrument do you play yourself? The G-1000? Have you actually tried to play the G-70? Since I did that I have not one time looked back on my G-1000. In my view the G-1000 is now out of the league...

To the rest of you, who want to listen to more demos from Niels, you can find them at the user club website . I can inform you that more demos will follow in a few days

Kind regards
Søren
Roland G-70 User Club Denmark admininisatrator


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Yes I agree with Weisefar. I played the G1000 and the VA7 and they were very good
instruments but now I am a G70-player.
The G70 is the best of the Rolandinstruments
you can buy today.

Glenn, the keys look short to me...[pics]..


You can bet, I will be G70 fan someday[since I have not played one yet, it will have to be someday]...I can not imagine that I would be disappointed, since I like the previous models features leading to the G70..

I do like the VA series sounds[stereo samples], but across the board...I still prefer my G1000 for many bread and butter sounds..They sound so realistic to me, that I don't see me parting with the G1000..I have owned 3 VA-7's , and the G1000 has outlived them..

My DisCover5 also has the same sounds as the VA series, but what makes me so high on the DisCover is the Harmonizer and other great features...that make it a keeper for me...
I can in vision that the G70 will probably take the place of this combination[G1000/DisCover5] someday..but for now there is absolutely nothing I miss with this combination..

It is true that the factory styles are better for the most part , then the G1000 factory styles....this means absolutely nothing..as I always say, a style is a style..They are easily replaced in Roland keyboards...Right now I have the G70 styles in my G1000..they are my go to styles.

What I think is going to be the hardest to replace , is the performers ease of operation that the G1000 offers[to me]..

For many G1000 owners , maybe the VR760 organ feature found in the G70 alone, may be worth the change...Roland's draw bars are the best hardware organs...period..

For now I am a happy camper with my antique G1000 and unwanted[according to sales] DisCover5..

There a some terrific good G70 styles for
downloading on the Danish G70 site.
Great accoustical rock and dixieland.

I have played the G70 and as I said above I thought it was not worth the upgrade.
Yes it does have some good sounds and some decent styles, but when I thought of how easy the G1000 is to use and that it still sounds decent to say how old it is, the G70 didn't grab me by the balls (pardon the expression) in order to purchase one. The Tyros 2 did manage to grab me so that now sits above my G1000 and Korg Triton.
Each to their own
The demo by the way had a great Dixie style and was a good rendition, but the brass/trumpet sounds were very poor comparing them to the Tyros2.

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I liked the first demo. As stated by another member it does have a nice dixie feel too it.

However the second demo doesn't really impress me. I don't know, maybe it's me, but the demo sounded to 80's to me. I don't think it showcases the G-70's true abilities.

I don't think 80's type demos on today's keyboards don't really show what a keyboard can truly do.

Squeak

The reputation of the G-70 still suffers from the unfortunate birth and the unfinished early versions of the instrument. In my opinion several statements like Craig's are coming from people, who base their statements on experiences done with the early versioned G-70's. That has become the unfortunate destiny of the G-70. Nevertheless, I think that Niels's demos obviously show that the current version of the G-70 is back in business! I respect that people think that Tyros2 solo sounds are better than the G-70 solo sounds. But within my ear the G-70 outcompetes the Tyros2. It is interesting that we have so different opinions regarding sound... You might find this webpage interesting. Here I have gathered opinions about the G-70 for a while.

My next door neighbour has a G70 with the current version and he's actually selling it so he can get a Tyros 2 instead, so as you wrongly put, I have not heard the older G70 it is in fact the new one and judging from the demos that have recently been posted, the new release still makes it sound terrible.

Hi,
I like Yamaha keyboards very much but Roland is another league.
Very well played. I am looking forward to other G70 demos.

Regards,
George

Some people sell their G-70 to get a Tyros2 and some people sell their Tyros2 to get a G-70. Why? Because we all think differently regarding "what sounds good".

It is impossible for me to comment on your experiences with you neighboor's G-70. What I CAN say is that I have heard several musicians, who hadn't been able to get anything out of their G-70's! Their instruments sound like sh..

However, the musicians, who have the skills to the master the G-70, can certainly make something out of the instrument And "yes" - the G-70 is definitely not an OTB instrument! People who haven't got the technical skills and/or the time to work with the G-70 are often turning to the Tyros2, because it plays right out of the box, which is BTW a great characteristic for an arranger! Roland could learn a lot from Yamaha regarding this!

The Tyros is a very good instrument and so
is the G70. And there are more good key-
boards. Why allways those negative comments?
Cann't we stop to criticize each others instruments in this way?
It becomes to be predictable, intelligent
musicians don't do such things.

Niels,
Excellent demo's. Really enjoyed the rag (oh when the saints) and for the life of me cannot understand the criticism of the second demo soundng "too 80's" ? It was an eighties song for heavens sake and a very good rendition of it at that! I know.... I was an eighties child

With regard to the my keyboard is better than yours nonsense we seemingly get preoccupied with on here I am sure it is because we have to justify (to ourselves at least?) why we just spent a small fortune on a particular brand/board. It's childish and boring.

As others have often said, make your choice on what works for you, then go play it and make beautiful music. After all whatever you buy and however much it cost you, the end result should be about the music not the process of making it. (Not that I am saying we can't all learn from each other there.....but why can't it be in a constructive way?)

I have heard demo's on here played on budget instruments that blow me away. WHY? Because the music is what was important and you can always tell when someone is showcasing their passion for music as opposed to their equipment.

Use the tools you feel comfortable with and don't forget why you have those tools. The board does not make you better....YOU make the board make MUSIC.

We SHOULD be celebrating the talent each of us have and what we can learn from each other to make us better musicians NOT trying to score points about who spent the most and which brand is better.)

Apologies Niels for slightly hijacking the thread but it really comes to something when people post to primarily criticise your choice of instrument and fail to comment on your demos or even respect the fact that you took the effort to create them and to share them with us. Don't be discouraged and keep them coming.

Best wishes
Tony

Forgot to mention that I've also got a Ketron SD1 when you asked me on here. It's for sale though as having 4 keyboards has now taken over the house.
Just heard the Tears in Heaven demo posted and where praise is due I do give it. This is the best demo up to yet that has been posted by nielshs.

"Tears" is outstanding. "Saints" is also very well done.
Drums are the only ones I've heard to date that rival Ketron's.
DonM