probably could research past posts but always new sz-ers and new equipment, so here goes... have finally decided never again to use pa systems. stands, etc unless i'm forced to by circumstance. not only does a kb amp make sense in terms of shlepping, connecting, setup time, etc, but it makes sense in terms of my belief that sound should amplify the persona of a musician, as if he/she were performing w/o amplification: in other words, the sound is best when it is centered close to the musician who is producing it, not spread across a room like background music. whenever i see the typical folkie guitarist/singer playing an intimate venue w/ 2 jbl 15's on high stands spread 15-20 ft apart, plus an effects rack plus a huge power mixer, i have to laugh (and cry at he same time) what are they thinking? it sounds and looks so (as Mencia would say-- dee--ta--deeee!..ie, stoooopid) so help me out here? (but not Barbetta, please, because i've read too many user complaints re their reliability and bad service) I'd like to keep it under approx 50 lbs, and a 12" spkr is ok, maybe better for vocals than 15". I'm going to put my E60 and vocals thru it, (maybe with my little Behringer mixer w/effects) yeah, i just reordered the E60 from Kaye w/1.09 update..hope that makes it better. don't know if stereo or mono is the way to go, but want to hear your thoughts.. $ value is to be considered, but i have no major objections to spending more to get a better sound..or spending less to get an older classic that some of you may favor...Ok, thanks for your help, guys!

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Miami Mo

http://www.traynoramps.com/products.asp?type=9&cat=57&id=340
http://www.traynoramps.com/downloads/specsheet/k4.pdf

best stand alone KB amp Ive heard & played thru in a long time .........

forgot to mention I'm not a fan of the Bose systems, so please limit your recommendations to kb amps..also, i would prefer for the amp to have speaker out and/or line out so i could set up a small monitor if circumstances required that. thanks again

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Miami Mo

and for my second recomendation........
http://barbetta.com/html/Live/live.html

thanks, Donny, looks like a winner..will have to check if lifting 57 lbs + weight of small wheeled carrier I would strap it to, up and down from my Endeavor is too much of a strain or not..I have had 3 hernias over the years and am subject to back spasms. also i see price is around $769 at discounters..for that $ i'd want to try one out first..so i'll have to hunt where i may be able to do that here in nw ct thru oct or in miami vic after nov 1.....MO

sorry, see my original post as to why not..

Mo....just whip that baby on a Rock N Roller multicart with all your gear...
http://www.rocknrollercart.com/

you cant skimp on good sound...try Ebay ya might get lucky & grab one for a bit less...The Traynor is a Tri Amped Beauty that can handle most situations in "stereo" with no prob!

this TOA 4-ch kb amp has just been relisted on ebay after no bidders 1st time..opening bid is $99 and may go for that or not too much more..it's 1 hr 20 min drive from my house so i can check it out, save shipping...anyone familiar with it? MO http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330154731153&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNARL:US:12

K4 is 50 pounds..The most powerful keyboard amp on the market[Keyboard Mag]..Tri amped..best midrange for vocals too..If you like to warm up a digital sound..TUBE preamp..

donny, once it's on any kind of carrier it's not a problem..it's the lift from the ground up/down, especially from the tailgate of my suv that concerns me. I take an old duovox bass amp to my wed jam night for bass players to use, and it's 50lbs including the carrier.. I can handle the lift, but just barely..I will bungee a 12-lb dumbbell to that and try the 62-lb lift. ..and pray i don't hurt myself..then try a 15-pounder... if that's ok then it's full steam ahead.... re the rocknroller: I'm one of those who carries the bare kb under his arm, i believe it's easier and safer that way. I don't mind extra steps..one trip for the kb and x-stand, one trip for the amp on carrier and shoulder bag of mics, cables, etc..one trip for the horns. setup is a breeze..I even leave my power cord/cables in the amp and bungee them to the amp or carrier..then don't have to do anything but stick them into kb..making 3 trips is good exercise, and i'd rather take extra steps than place a ton of stuff on a rocknroller in cases, unpack/repack, find places on the gi to put the roller, cases, etc..and i never have to take the amp on/off the carrier i use..it's all one unit..I just have to lift it in/out of my suv, then roll it around for the rest of the night. MO