DonM

Please let us know your feelings about the bass response after your A/B test...ykc

I've made that comparrison, and the dual 8's don't push as much air as the single 15. They do sound great, but the overall presence is different. They are more defined, but get splatty at higher volume levels. They can put out a good bit of sound, though ..... enough to make them "walk" around from the rattle they produce !

Semi,

This is my setup; Behringer PMX2000 Stereo powered mixer (500 Watts), 2 PC-15 Peavey 15" speakers with horns. This system is cheap, light, and powereful. It has plenty of bass, so much so that I can do a DJ gig without a sub-woofer. I use this as my keyboard setup as well as our rehearsal PA. I paid $259 for the PMX and another $260 for the speakers, all were B-stock items. I've had nothing but great success and reliability with this system. The speakers are plastic and weigh something in the 20-30 lb range.

You might want to check this out. I use this system in a 7 piece band!

Al

Wow, $520, that's definitely something I did NOT know about when I bought. If I would have known I could have gotten virtually same sound from a $520 system versus $1,500 Carvin system... (assuming the sound is comparable)...

SemiLive,

The price difference is explained in part by the fact that Carvins are made in the USA, whereas Behringers are made in China, so you can find solace in the fact that the extra money you paid has kept some American gainfully employed

The other difference between Logitechs and any "pro" gear, is that the "pro" manufacturers produce perhaps hundreds of units, whereas Logitech has tens or hundreds of thousands of the speaker sets made (probaby somewhere in Indonesia). So the economies of scale come into play bigtime (you could pay 2-3 times as much if these were made one at a time, like the Carvins).

And of course, with the Logitechs you need to use an external mixer.

Are you sure? (Not doubting you, just was surprised by the following.)

I bought a Carvin guitar and it's made in China. Very well-made, as well. It's a great guitar. It's amazing to me the quality of guitars that are coming from Asia. For $600, you can buy one heckuva guitar. To me, it's comparable to a Taylor (American) that I had. Which cost $1,300.

I have the logitechs myself, and I think they are great for my studio and rehearsal work. I do not like the sound of my voice through this system. It is very harsh and boomy. I'm using a Shure Beta-57 through the Tyros. I think I sound Yukky, like i'm in a closet or something.

When I go through the Powered Mixer and the 15"'s, my voice sounds rich and sparkly with good mid-tones.

I have taken the Logitechs out to rehearsals with a singer, and with the BASS all the way down, the system sounds boomy and lackluster.

Let me quality the above by saying, this is to MY taste and you mileage may vary.

Don... I'm also anxious to learn about your 31C/32 A/B comparison.

While you're at it, it'd be interesting to compare one of those speakers with and without the mixer... not necessarily comparing volume, but the definition and clarity of sound... thx.

BTW, I recently heard someone doing a single with an older PSR and a Barbetta 2200, a smaller yet amp no longer in production... sounded great.

Glenn

I hope to try them this afternoon. I have used both sets both with and without mixer. I can't tell any difference in quality or clarity. The Tyros has an excellent internal mixer, so when I use an external mixer, I set it almost completely flat anyway.
I HAVE found that using balanced cables between the mixer and amps seems to make them sound better. I can't describe the difference. Maybe it is perceived. I discussed this with Tony Barbetta at length, and he said that he observed the same thing.
The Barbettas have 1/4-inch inputs that are either unbalanced or balanced depending upon whether you use standard cables or balanced (trs) cables. Of course the output from the mixer must be balanced also.
DonM

Actually, I am not sure. I remember that a few years ago, when I was on Carvin's mailing list, their catalog was boasting that all of their products were made in the USA. However, things may have changed since then.

A while back I was shopping for a grand piano, and in the course of my research found that these days most manufacturers build their pianos (and many other instruments) in China. This includes many well-known European and Japanese makers, such as Yamaha and Kawai. In fact Steinway is one of a very few manufacturers who builds their pianos outside of China (in the US). In addition to a very hefty price tag, many dealers also reported that they required a lot of maintenance - up to 8 hours of tuning and adjustment before they were ready to go on a shop floor, which made those dealers very unhappy. I believe things have improved since then, but I certainly agree that "made in China" is not synonymous with "poor quality".