Hello

I wanted to alert those of you who might be interested in purchasing a Lowrey or Roland home organ or keyboard at wholesale figures that I have 15 units available that can be shipped anywhere in the lower 48 states. Some are last year's model's used lightly in a small classroom situation and some are used.

One organ I am selling for an old student of mine that moved away from the area and the rest I am helping out a dealer friend of mine who I worked for a few years ago, who is getting out of the home organ business. All he is interested in is getting his wholesale out of them, which would be quite an opportunity for anyone who has desired to have a home organ with all the rhythm's and voices along with a nice furniture style cabinet.

Email me for a price quote and details if interested.

Here is a listing of what is available:

Roland G70
Roland E200
Roland AT5
Roland AT60S
Roland AR80S
Roland AT90S
Roland AT80, used
Roland AT80R, used
Lowrey Director LC35, used
Lowrey Promenade LX400, used
Lowrey Lincolnwood, used
Lowrey Adventurer LC1, used
Lowrey Serenade LX410, used

Scott
http://ScottLMusic.com

Might as well stop talking about keyboards then.

Why do we have a For Sale forum? I feel that Dealers that Do Not PAY for Sponsorship or Banners on a site shouldn't use it to sell, that's a slap in the face to the Dealers that do.....many other forums that I frequent have that same rule...
IMO its makes sense think about it.I dont know how Nigel feels about this, just voicing mine & others views.
But who am I



[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 04-11-2007).]

Come on!!!!! Give small dealers and wannabe dealers a break...so they use forums to reach specific markets...So what , if is something that interest us...Most here are our resident dealers and as I said the wannabes..

I surely do not know any dealers getting rich[MI stores and Home piano too, lately]...matter of fact , most are losing money..

Who knows , this may be just the avenue we need to get what we want at a price we can't refuse...

Just my view, but who am I

I don't like all this talk about restricting the access to the forum for dealers and manufacturers. As long as the post is related to arranger kebyoards I have absolutely no problem with it and will read it with interest. If they don't feel welcome here we also risk to loose valuable members like George Kaye (Kayes Music) or David McMahan (Generalmusic).

Kind regards,
Tommy

Really thats because your NOt a Dealer?....well if I was a
"Legitimate Sponsored Dealer" who pays to advertise on a website & you were getting UNDERCUT buy other "NON paying Sponsored Dealers" I would be upset wouldn't you?
By your logic the paying sponsor should just get screwed eh?



[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 04-11-2007).]

Since when is there a price tag attached for helping a friend? Scott is a respected member of this forum and I think he deserves better than this. It's sad that everything has to be about money.

Fran and Tommy are right on!

Let's have Nigel have the last word on this, okay?

This criticism towards Scott is silly - much ado about nothing.

He's not a regular merchant. I don't recall him selling anything at this site.

The title of the post is clear. If you are not interested, don't read it.

If he were selling stuff on the forum all the time and creating a regular distraction, it would be different.

Beakybird

Even so, Scott's post is an advertisement, no doubt whatsoever. He's not giving them away!

The more appropriate thing to do is to post on the 'For Sale' forum here at SZ, and do a SMALL link to that page. There is little point in a 'For Sale' forum if you are not going to use it.

Even so, the world isn't always so black and white. I tend to view this as more of a "heads up" or "first shot" to his fellow synthzone members....a courtesy, so to speak. It's not like Scott is a regular abuser who uses this forum to push used home organs for a living (he wouldn't be able to afford a computer to post on if he did).

I've only been on this forum for a couple of years but I was under the impression that Scott was a long-time, respected member of this forum. Even if it was an ad (which it wasn't), don't we cut our "long-time, respected", and VALUED members some slack? Jeez, lighten up. If I were in the market for a home organ, I'd be elated at the possibility of getting one at a good price from someone who wasn't a total stranger. There is certainly a precedent for this type of transaction on this board.....and I don't recall anyone being called out about it. Am I missing something here?

chas

Well, chas, it's part of a different post about manufacturers, dealers and reps identifying themselves as such (so we can judge the 'bias' of a post) and not hijacking the forum for (barely disguised) commercials.

I don't object to Scott's post in any way, other than to say that we DO have a 'for sale' forum here at SZ, and a simple link to a post IN THE CORRECT PLACE would be more appropriate. That is all.

Donny, I think you're gonna get outvoted on this one. I have no objection to an occasional plug for any merchant, especially a one-time sale, especially by an established SZ member. Should we allow GC or Sam Ash to a free post? Aha, if they really had something specific and special for this forum for sale, I'd read it. I wouldn't want this forum to turn into a trade-scape, but sometimes small retailers don't have the budget or the exposure a post on the SZ can give them. I haven't bought from any of our resident merchants, but not because I haven't inquired of them. I find myself buying mostly used equipment from private parties.

Let the post stay.

Does Zzounds, Sameday Music and bigger retailers even sell the instruments posted by Scott. If not, Whats the big deal.

Suppose DonM had an ad here for his country music entertaining business, and for example let's say that Hank posted and said "man for country music you should hire Boo at We Be JazzN', he's much better than DonM." I wouldn't see any problem with that either, Other than Hank would be a big liar. Ha! Ha!

[This message has been edited by brickboo (edited 04-11-2007).]

I didnt make my statement to get a stupid vote ..... I just made my opinion known as to what I thought about posting as a
NON Sponsored "DEALER" on a forum that has "Sponsored Paid advertising Dealers" ...business is business ...
friends are friends....

[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 04-11-2007).]

Friends for Nigel, Same Day Music, Zzounds business is business on this forum, but it is not what runs the show.

For ones doing the posting that are keeping this forum alive, it is just a place to BS and learn things from one another about OMB and music in General.

I'm sure the folks who run the sponsored company advertisers here and on other forums have figured this out a long time ago. If not they were very short sighted.

This is a free site to post most anything a person wants to say about music and gear including selling music gear without vulgarities and insults! This is my opinion.

When I get ready to retire, I'll have a bunch of stuff posted here, on the sax forum and maybe the BIAB forum. I don't see how this should offend any advertisement and make them pull their advertising for this great forum.

I also appreciate, all the folks input that tell us about their gear at their stores like George Kaye, DanO and the others that may not have a paid advertisement. I hope they don�t become intimidated by this subject matter and continue to keep us abreast of the ever changing trends and equipment in the OMB business.

Without all of this going on, there wouldn�t be any reason to advertise here, because this place would dry up. Everyone on this forum has sold something except me. What�s the difference if it one instrument or 20?

I think everyone needs to calm down and quit getting excited about so many things. Man there�s people dying everyday for empty wallets and a couple of pills. Now that�s worth getting worked up over, not anything that�s going on here. Eighty percent of what is going on here is BS and that makes it also fun and entertaining. Not just educational and this friends is what keeps this place breathing.

Please everyone post some more tunes but try to omit the wrong chords. Ha! Ha! I�m still not smart enough to figure out how to record my sax. I�ve had others admit that for recording a sax that a professional studio is a must unless you don�t mind sounding like a beginner.

This is just my opinions and not necessarily the opinion of Nigel or anyone affiliated with Nigel and it�s not worth more than your opinions friends. Post, Post, Post!

Anyone have ten i30's or thirty Selmer Series III tenor saxes or Mark IV's for sale?
Email me.

Fran do you still have that Farfisa for sale?



[This message has been edited by brickboo (edited 04-12-2007).]

I wouldn't go to a pro studio to record your sax unless A) you have money to burn, B) You have NO microphones or preamps (you DO have a mixer, don't you?), C) You never used recording software in your life (whatever you are reading this with is powerful enough to record a sax onto a backing track), and D) you are going to be comfortable, unhurried and confident once in the real studio, with all it's intimidating gear. and engineers looking at you.

Probably better to put a small recording setup together using your computer and just experiment until you get a decent sound. It's not rocket science. Just record when the house is quiet (although a sax is so loud, background noise needs to be pretty loud to get onto the recording!), and listen carefully to the recording to make sure reflections and room reverb don't get too loud.

Then a simple, soft LA2A-type compression is added (in software) and you are done! Now you can record any time you feel like it, no extra cost..!

Sure, if you are recording for Sony Records, they'll expect you to do it in the studio. But I have heard a TON of well-produced home recordings. Just don't expect the best results the first time you try, experiment until it sounds good (hire an engineer to come to your house and set up the stuff for you if you are a total newbie).

Better to learn to fish and cook than have to go to a restaurant EVERY time you feel like some grouper!

Hi Scott,
Are any of the Rolands still avaliable?
Hal

Boo, come on down here to Louisiana and I'll record your sax with you, while you set in with me.
In fact, I already have some. I'll dig through them when I get a chance.
DonM

Hi Hal

All the new ones have been sold except for the AT5.

There were a few used ones in like new condition about a week ago. I have contacted my dealer friend and should know tomorrow or the next day.

Scott

Hi Scott, I hope to hear from you soon.
Hal

Hi Hal

I hope to get back to you soon. My dealer friend must be swamped as I have not yet received the info we need.

Diki, I generally agree with you on this issue, but there are those of us who will never learn to fish or cook and prefer to go to great seafood places.

Same with recording. I will always use top rated studios because that's built into the film budget and we only do 10-12 film scores and 5 or 6 other projects a year.


That's not enought to be at the top of our game with an in-house studio. It's like a few years ago, before film basically disappeared.
It just didn't make sense to process in house. The volume just wasn't there to have a "top shelf" product.

This is not a disagreement with your advice on this matter...just a statement that, in certain instances, there are options which make sense, timewise and quality wise. I have one voice-over guy that will only record voice-overs with his own $5,000 plus mike (an old monster-can't recall the brand) at one studio. He's the voice of a major client...a vehicle manufacturer, so I have no choice in that case. His rate is $150.00 per hour. Mine for writing, shooting and producing is as much as $250.00 per hour, so it really is not economical for me to record "in-house".
If we had more volume, number of projects-wise and weren't also ewardproducing print, packaging and research, I'd certainly get into "in-house" recording on a national quality level.

Sounds like you've got your act together,
I look for your posts...a little dramatic compared to my style, but generally on target and well articulated.

Glad to know you,


Russ

Thanks, Russ.

I generally make my comments here as addressing either home players or local level pros, as there are only a few high end guys here. I know very well just how much difference the high-end makes when you have the budget and talent to justify it, but I tried to make the post address the needs of the poster, rather than be a blanket statement.

I work at an SSL equipped studio in my town, and yes, they've got Sony 800G's and all the pre's and toys you could ever want. But most of us here are just looking to lay stuff down at home for either our personal use or local release. As you know, once you get over the intimidation factor, it's FAR easier than many make out, and I love to encourage the faint of heart to give it a try, especially as it is SO inexpensive, nowadays!

But anyone with a pro-sized budget, first-call chops and little experience recording will get fantastic results going to a pro studio the first time out (hopefully!), but often the cost of that ONE trip to the studio can buy everything you need to make 'reasonably good' (in other words, ALMOST pro!) recordings at home, and of course, you now have the gear to do it every day with no additional expense...!

But the spectrum is wide, and many different approaches work. I was just trying to offer advice to the semi's and home players...

BTW, Russ, my email is in my profile, I would LOVE to hear some of your soundtrack work if you'd like to privately share it....

Hi, Diki. All of my work is propritetary. Final products are owned by the client, but I do have one rough I have permission to share. It was presented as I have it, then produced traditionally, with a real B-3, grand piano, horns, guitars, etc., with the finest musicians in this part of the country. I've been asked why I didn't use the rough, since, after a voice-over, no one could tell the difference, I could. Nigel, Tony Mads and Rory have heard it. I'll find it and send it sometime between now and the end of the year.

You are right on with your advice for people who need good, presentable recordings. I'd like to get more involved in that end of the work when I "semi-retire". The rough I will send you was done on a Korg 4-track...Alesis drum machine and whatever keyboards were laying around. My son works for me and is the techno guy as far as video editing, recording, computer networks, graphics, research aand database management etc. go. I'm the creative one, and leave the real work to him to manage.

I have a good relationship with this client, so I'll ask if this one piece can be posted. He has said that I can share copies, but I haven't addressed putting it on the internet. I'd like to, since several people have asked to hear samples of this boring but very profitable kind of work. It's a little boring, because the pieces are written to images, louped and the lead lines can't be so busy as to get in the way of the voice-over.

Thanks for the interest.


Russ