Is that your new telephone number???

That's the normal way to play a 'D' chord! It's not really necessary to tell a guitarist to play 'F#' with a 'D' chord. He should know this...

Well, a classical music education is valuable!!! Peace!

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Would you play a 'G' bass note and a 'F' bass note at the same time???
Maybe that's the reason why the guitarist is looking confused...

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From what I've always understood anything such as G/F or C/G, the letter after the slash is a reference to the bass note to be played, although after 40 years on the guitar I can't say I've ever seen a reference to a G7th as G/F (although F is the 7th note in the chord). One of the more common inversions that I've seen laid out is the root / followed by the third which would be played an octave lower than the norm.
Just my 2 cents worth.

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Well, I've only been playing guitar for 38 years, so, what do I know. I'm a young buck compared to many here. But IMO, 200323 is NOT your normal D chord. X00232 is. If you want F# as the root, you say D/F#, which is 200232.

I have never in my life seen a D chord taught in any chord book as 200232. Either way, it's a D chord but you can bet they sound different. The open ringing A string is the way a D chord is played by most.

Of course, there are other ways to play a D chord but X00232 is the common open D chord.

All this is IMO, of course.

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No. I would not play a G bass note and an F bass note. The /F is what tells me not to play the chord with a G bass. How I play the G chord on a keyboard with my right hand could be any one of the three main inversions or I may pick the notes or play a run of notes in G, BUT there would be a definite F bass played. I would not play a G7th at the sight of G/F, whether on guitar or keyboards. So if you want a G7, you need to specify G7.

The reason the guitar player is confused is because either he's just simply not seen this before or he knows what it means but was confused when directed to play a G7 at the site of a G/F notation. I think...


Peace
Bob
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Thank you all for great insights.

Graham

I'm a younger buck, SemiLive! I'm just playing since 22 years. I don't know if I'm right or not but at the end it is only a question of communication. I think that every band has its own conversation style and that's also a part that should be practiced in the rehearsal...


Uh, that wasn't the way I've learned guitar; I'm afraid. I saw in a chord book a (2)00232. The round brackets were standing for finger positions which don't must to be set. But in that case that you don't set the F# you don't have to attack this side (with a strike). In that case you won't play a full 6-string chord but only a 5-string chord.
I also saw in some chord books that chord (3)(2)0003. But do you really want to play a "G" chord with only 4 strings? I did it and it sounded very weak...
A "C" chord played with a "G" would mean that you play a "C played with a big quinte" (a so called "C major 5"). In this case you can do it on the 1st string (032013) or on the 6th string (332010) or on both places (332013). In both cases this chord would sound fuller.

Oh, by the way, maybe this is the best way to show a guitarist what to play. Tell him six numbers in a row (from 6th to 1st string) like SemiLive invented here...

On the other hand, while playing a chord a guitarist can pick some melodies into the chord. Those things are really hard to tell. I think that's the reason why we're practicing in a rehearsal before we're gigging...

Okay, I thought about it and would let you know it. That's all! Peace

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I'm with semilivemusic on this one.

200232 is not the normal D chord. X00232 is. Often when I play a D chord this normal way, I leave out the bass A. If I hit it, I hit it, no big deal. I also barre a D chord depending on the song and preceding and following chords.

200232 = D/F#, which may I point out is why G/F is not a G7. The note on the right side of the slash does not indicate what note to add to the chord. It represents the bass note.

This is pretty standard notation. And standard notation is a wonderful thing for all of us who know and use it. You can go from band to band and have no trouble at all.

But I would say, I've only been playing guitar for 4.5 years. So I probably know a lot less than you all. But I'm with semilivemusic on this one.

Peace all
Bob
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Originally posted by SemiLiveMusic

Huh? It's simply a normal D chord plus your thumb fretting 6th-string, second fret... 200232.

Absoluteley, if you come from the Mark Knopfler school of Guitar technique, different if you play in the Classical style or you're a crap guitarist like me - sorry to offend. . . . . .

Playing simultaneous bass lines , lead lines and chords is a sight to see, especially if it's done right. Think of old fingerpickers like Mearle Travis and Chet Atkins. Then there's that "freak of nature" Charlie Hunter! He's using special bass pick-ups, more than 6 strings, etc., but what a sound!

I appreciate many single players who have learned to play bass, lines, chords and more!

Concentrating on playing a bass line in rythem, along with chords and lead lines takes years to perfect and really takes the art of guitar playing to a new level.


Russ