I play with a guitarist and occasionally give him chords with a specified root, e.g. D7/F#, C/G.

Does this mean anything to a guitarist?, my guy looks blank at me.

If I give him G/F, I have to explain this is G7. Am I being unrealistic to think he should be able to figure this out, or should I spell it out for him?

Graham

If you say "G/F" then you really mean "G7"???

Is that any free style???
I've thought we would have a unitary script form and spelling for music notes. If you talk about "G7" then you should better say "G minor 7". Or "G played with a small septime" because that's historic...

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Sheriff ;-)

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The best suggestion would be to have him visit one of the many web pages that show the guitar tabs. Most of us old country boys know how to play a G7, but a G/F just ain't in our heads!

Good Luck,

Gary

Inversions like we are used to play on a keyboard don't mean much to a guitar player: they think of "frets" instead. So, better tell him to play just a D7 or a C or and then leave to his musical taste to find the proper position on the guitar neck.
As a general rule, the chords played on a guitar shouldn't overlap (in terms of frequencies) with the chords played on the keyboard, to avoid the so called "sonic mud".
The same rule applies for the bass player and whatever is played with the left hand on the keyboard.

I'm not 100% sure what you're asking but what you said above means whatever chord you said plus the next note after the slash as the root. Tell it to him that way. To explain that it means what note to play as root. For instance C/G being C chord with G (bass note) played on his 6th-string. Same thing with D/F#, it's just a D chord with F# at fret 2 on the sixth string. G/F is rather unusual. If you are wanting a G7 but you want F as the bass note, you'll have to tell him that, else, he'll just play a G7 chord with G note in the bass position.

Hi,
If I'am informed right G/F does not mean G7. G/F means: chord G with bass note F. So keyboard player plays G-chord and the bass guitarist note F. But I don't know how It sounds in practice.




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Igor
Europe-Slovenija

It is often impossible to voice a guitar chord the same as a keyboard - for example to play D/F# you have to ask the guitarist to fret on F# playing a C shape, certain chords are virtually unplayable in the (requested) guitar variation and some are quite natural, especially those involving any of the open strings. Its usually better to listen to what the guitar can do and compensate with the keyboard to get the required inversion/layering. It will also sound more natural (obviously). This also transfers over into programming guitar parts - Think of the shape the guitar can physically play and then program those notes only.

It's pretty straightforward stuff...this type of description is the chord and a designated bass note which is not the one in the standard chord configuration. Using optional bass notes adds much to the dynamic of the instrument and often separates the
advanced players from others.

Russ

Huh? It's simply a normal D chord plus your thumb fretting 6th-string, second fret... 200232.

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Igor (strojnik)

You are correct! A G/F is not a G7.

Mostly, guitarists ought not to concern themselves with what's on the right side of the slash. So if you want the guitarist to play a G7th and there is to be an F bass.. it ought to be presented as G7/F.

I play both guitar and keyboards and when playing guitar I only pay attention to the right side of the slash when it's convenient to do so, such as was mentioned earlier the C/G and D/F# are easy and convenient. But a G/F or G7/F is not easy and as a guityar player will just forget the F bass completely. Now the Bass player ought to make sure he pays complete attention to the right side of the slash.

When playing keys I pay attention to both sides of the slash. If I saw a G/F, you would not hear me play a G7th. You'd hear a G with an F bass note.

Peace
Bob
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