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#185066 - 06/03/05 10:00 AM Re: Question for George Kaye - Roland VA-76 vs Korg PA-1x
MikeTV Offline
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Registered: 10/02/04
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Dennis

Just another quick question on the PA1x.

I know that it has a "Bass Follow" setting available so that - when switched on - the bass line is always the lowest note of any LH chord you play.

On my old Korg i3, this setting could be saved differently for each arrangement, so that it always came back the way you wanted it for each new song. When I later bought a Korg i30HDD, I found - to my horror - that this function could only be saved as a GLOBAL function. i.e. Always on, or always off, by default.

This meant that, when you called up the preset you had saved for each new song, you still had to check - and maybe change - the setting of this ONE button before starting to play. If you didn't check, sods law would could GUARANTEE it would be set the wrong way round for the next number!

As I frequently play LH chords that are in an inversion, rather than 1st position, this often left you with a totally inappropriate bass line until you realised what the problem was & flicked the damn switch again, part way into the song (dead professional - I don't think). As an example, imagine playing "Whiter Shade Of Pale", immediately followed by a Hard Rockin' straight twelve bar blues - but now with the wrong bass root.......

Totally dumb design - and one of the (many) reasons I ditched the i30HDD and went back to using the older i3.

When the PA80 came out, this "feature" remained like it was on the i30HDD. On it's own, this one aspect ruled the PA80 out for any further consideration - no matter how good the rest of the instrument.

What is the situation on the PA1x?

Regards (and thanks for your help) - Mike

[This message has been edited by MikeTV (edited 06-03-2005).]

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#185067 - 06/03/05 01:53 PM Re: Question for George Kaye - Roland VA-76 vs Korg PA-1x
manic2257 Offline
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Registered: 01/17/05
Posts: 172
Loc: australia
hi mike, sorry about delay in answering...to be honest ihave never used the "bass follow" control..what i HAVE noticed is that with the new (in opsys 2.5) korg named "expert chord recognition" i now have no problems with any bass lines in any styles, as i also change from chords in root to 1st and 2nd inv, also chords in the "power" style ie no 3rds, even slash chords are no problem any more...another small thing that i like, although it may not affect anyone else..is that you can now get a minor 6th happening without having to play a fistful of notes, very handy, particularly on songs above andante...anyhoo, i am still running thru my manuals on this one, bit i have a suspicion the expert chord recognition feature is what you require..
dennis

peace, out

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#185068 - 06/10/05 05:32 AM Re: Question for George Kaye - Roland VA-76 vs Korg PA-1x
MikeTV Offline
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Registered: 10/02/04
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Quote:
Originally posted by MikeTV:
Dennis

Just another quick question on the PA1x.

I know that it has a "Bass Follow" setting available so that - when switched on - the bass line is always the lowest note of any LH chord you play.

On my old Korg i3, this setting could be saved differently for each arrangement, so that it always came back the way you wanted it for each new song. When I later bought a Korg i30HDD, I found - to my horror - that this function could only be saved as a GLOBAL function. i.e. Always on, or always off, by default.

When the PA80 came out, this "feature" remained like it was on the i30HDD. On it's own, this one aspect ruled the PA80 out for any further consideration - no matter how good the rest of the instrument.

What is the situation on the PA1x?


......Just found the answer to my own question in the most recent version PA1x user manual.

The "Bass Inversion" (Bass Follow, or whatever you want to call it) can be saved at various levels, including as part of a user panel preset (arrangement, or whatever). It can also by saved as part of other patches, such as songbook entries, or individual user style parameters.

This is excellent news. However, I think this may have come in with one of the more recent operating system upgrades, as I have a feeling that I looked at this when the instrument first came out and found this facility missing.

Out of interest, I also checked the latest PA80 manual, as this instrument offers a lot for the price. Unfortunately, the PA80 still only allows the Bass Inversion setting to be saved globaly. Shame - I might have saved myself some cash!

Regards - Mike

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#185069 - 10/20/05 01:34 PM Re: Question for George Kaye - Roland VA-76 vs Korg PA-1x
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does the va-76 have the "arpeggiator" thing ?
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#185070 - 10/20/05 01:40 PM Re: Question for George Kaye - Roland VA-76 vs Korg PA-1x
George Kaye Offline
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No, the VA76 does not have an arpegiator.
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#185071 - 10/20/05 09:16 PM Re: Question for George Kaye - Roland VA-76 vs Korg PA-1x
claudiu Offline
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George, I just bought a new B stock VA-76. What do you think about the arranger itself ? give me some information please.
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#185072 - 10/22/05 11:05 AM Re: Question for George Kaye - Roland VA-76 vs Korg PA-1x
claudiu Offline
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George ?
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#185073 - 10/23/05 09:01 AM Re: Question for George Kaye - Roland VA-76 vs Korg PA-1x
claudiu Offline
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I want to buy a Yamaha Motif ES7. give me some advices.
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