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#186318 - 08/24/02 04:57 AM Chord question
SFPlayer Offline
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Registered: 05/01/02
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I admit that I am anything but a seasoned player, but I have a lot of fun playing the PSR2000 at home.

While I have a fair amount of sheetmusic books, I have now bought a book called "Ballroom Favourites" by International Music Publications and which contains excellent Quickstep, Fox and Waltz medleys. One problem though: Some of the indicated chords have a plus sign, others a degree sign added behind, and this is something I have not run into so far. How would these translate to the chords available on the PSR2000? Is F+ the same as Faug? C° possibly Ccancel? Thanks for any help you can give!

George

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#186319 - 08/24/02 06:19 AM Re: Chord question
technicsplayer Offline
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augmented and diminished. simplest way to remember is

augmented is the root + major 3rd + (5th+semitone) so would be C E G# for example

diminished is the same only root + minor 3rd + (5th-semitone) so would be C Eb Gb although some would argue you need the A too.

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#186320 - 08/24/02 06:21 AM Re: Chord question
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Hi SFPlayer,

Quote:
Originally posted by SFPlayer:
Is F+ the same as Faug?


Yes. It's the short notation fo F+5. It means an augmented fifth (F,A,C#).

Quote:
Originally posted by SFPlayer:
Is F+ the same as Faug? C° possibly Ccancel?


Gee, I've never heard about a "Ccancel" chord! C° is a diminished chord (diminished third and diminished fifth). The result is (C,Eb,Gb). Another possible notation for C° is Cdim.

-- José.

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#186321 - 08/24/02 06:23 AM Re: Chord question
SFPlayer Offline
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Thanks a lot to both of you. Exactly what I needed!

George

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#186322 - 08/24/02 06:27 AM Re: Chord question
Anonymous
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We posted at the same time!

Quote:
Originally posted by technicsplayer:
diminished is the same only root + minor 3rd + (5th-semitone) so would be C Eb Gb although some would argue you need the A too.


If you add the A note you will get a diminished seventh chord (third-semitone, fifth-semitone, seventh-semitone)

-- José.

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#186323 - 08/24/02 06:35 AM Re: Chord question
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yes, some say dim = dim 5th, some say dim = dim 7th, some say half diminished with Bb, some say the A is really Bbb, some say seventh diminished 5th, some say... I can't hear the difference (at least when playing auto chord)

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#186324 - 08/24/02 07:35 AM Re: Chord question
Douglas Dean Offline
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And some will say with long stringy hair and slightly crossed eyes - Deep man.............deeeeeep!

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#186325 - 08/24/02 12:44 PM Re: Chord question
eddiefromrotherham Offline
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Loc: Rotherham,England.
Forgive a Senior's crazy thoughts, but I was thinking how it reminds me of my former days when my ardour was often augmented (+)but sadly now is diminished (o).

cheers


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[This message has been edited by eddiefromrotherham (edited 08-24-2002).
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#186326 - 08/24/02 02:54 PM Re: Chord question
technicsplayer Offline
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or how was once said in one of the greatest song lyrics ever written...

"how strange.. the change.. from major.. to minor.."

(preferably sung absolutely perfectly by Ella )

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#186327 - 08/24/02 04:02 PM Re: Chord question
Big Red Offline
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Registered: 01/19/00
Posts: 125
Loc: Canada
Tee Hee, EddiefromRotherham!

Well, as you know - "if tha wants owt doin', do it for thyssen".

It's okay, my wife's family is from Rotherham, so tha'll know of what I speak.

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#186328 - 08/24/02 07:43 PM Re: Chord question
MagicUser Offline
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Registered: 06/05/02
Posts: 190
Loc: New York, USA
George,
I have the PSR2000 as well. I have had it for about 2 weeks and it is great. If you look in your manual on page 63 you can see a listing of chords. Although it does not use the (+) and (o) notation it might help in explaining which notes to press for which chords.
There is also (on page 139) a description of the Chord Tutor which might be helpful to you as well.
technicsplayer and matias had already given you the correct answer but I thought you might be interested in more feature of the 2000. I know it will take me a long while to get to every function.
Enjoy your playing. I know my wife for years has been trying to get me take Ballroom Dancing. Sounds like a fun book.

- Brian

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#186329 - 08/25/02 12:30 AM Re: Chord question
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Loc: Rotherham,England.
@ Big Red.

Good to know you are connected with the Holy City of Rotherham
We make the best Yorkshire puddings as well!

BTW, I looked to see where you are from but you don't say. Then I looked for other members' locations, but quite a few don't say. I always think it's nice to know who our members are and where they live, even if it's vague.
cheers
Eddie

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