That's what I added to my setup time when I decided that the onboard mic input in the psr3k wasn't giving me all I needed anymore.
I tried ... I REEEEALLY tried to love the simplicity of it, but the headroom factor is just too much of a sacrifice.
Here are my thoughts:

1) The mic input is too sensitive and there is not enough headroom for a good, solid, clean sound when you sing as strong as I do.

2) The compressor helps "a little" to smooth out the sounds, but even so - it's not a very good compressor.

3) The harmonies suffer if you use the dedicated effect on the mic channel. Seems thay vie for attention from the memory section, and the harmonizer usually looses that battle. The harmonizer works better if you keep the effect off ....... but then I don't like the effects on the lead mic anymore. Catch 22? Maybe.

4)The inability to trigger harmonies from the right hand while using the arranger in the left is bad for me. I switch betwen live and accpt bass alot, so I need the harmonies to attach to the right hand. I can also play better chord voicings with my right hand. I play some passing tones, and tension notes that work GREAT on the harmonies, but would create a weird feeling if the arranger got wind of these changes.

5) Lastly ..... the on/off is NOT instantanious in the built in harmonizer. I need to cut in and out with "split second" acuracy to capture that "vocal group" sound, like the 4 Freshman, Letterman, and Beach Boys do. That's important to my trademark sound. The Yamaha interrupts the signal for a second when you switch the harmonies on or off. VERY, very cumbersome - and I just can no longer take it.

So: Conclusions......

1) I wired the Digitech VR back into the setup and it's working great. I use a rack mount Toa mixer that has individual, direct outs on each channel, so I feed the mic into the Digitech, then I take the direct out and pump that into the Yammy mic input at a low volume ... just to get the delay effect added to the Reverb in the Digi.

2) Adding tha rack bag made it possible to stow the A/C adapters for my laptop and kb inside. The look is neat and clean, and super simple to hook up. Every wire is measured to the correct distance and held securely with cable ties. It's impossible to hook it up wrong - even in the dark.

3) End result - I sound better. I'm happier performing. The Bose has a punchier, stronger signal coming into it, and it sounds great. I LOVE it .... .and all it added to my setup time was about 5 minutes. Quite possibly less. Life is good !

Congratulations Dave! The VR is a good unit. And 5 minutes extra for a better presentation and better results is worth it in my opinion.

And CONGRATULATIONS on the new Misses!

Yes, life is good.

Best regards,
Mike

Great post, Dave! It has rekindled my interest in wiring up that VR I never use.

cass

Now all you need is a SH101, Rhodes, Juno 106 and a TR 707...then you would have made a full recovery..

Dave,

That's the same conclusion I came to a year ago when I built the rack that holds all the goodies, incluidng the Digitech VR. In my case, the setup time is about the same--5 to 8 minutes using the Barbettas and 10 to 12 minutes using the Z-5500. The quality just was not there with the 3000s harmonizer, and I tried every imaginable combination. Sometimes you need that little extra something to achieve perfection, which in this case was the VR.

Gary

I've pretty much played with that set-up, but the VR is not in that era, is it?

You are right, the VR is not in that era[need something new], but the Toa goes back some...

Sometimes, 5% more work yields 50% more comfort.

Talking about the "Good old days"...I just dug out an old MTV commercial from 1985 for Specialties Music[what is left of it..UD accidently re-recorded over the only tape in exsistance]....the last 15 seconds is still there..

Featured are a group of current and up and coming stars...including UD,[keys]... My son Darren,[Guitar].. Jerry Maurio,[drums]...and George Bond,[guitar]..oh ,,and yours truly[keys].....maybe UD can convert the tape to CD video..that we could post it somewhere...

Just adding a mixer improves the overall sound, as pointed out by UD and also some time ago by Jim/The Pro. I recently started using a Mackie DFX6 to help cure a feedback problem I was having (2 mics + SD1). Not only was I able to fine tune the sound to eliminate feedback, but I was surprised by just HOW MUCH the overall sound improved.

Glenn

In a ½ inch wooden box 11” deep 19 & 1/8 high & 14 &5/8 wide, I was able to squeeze in the Digitech VR, Behringer Composer pro XL, & a Mackie DFX-6 (with one side panel removed). For me, It’s a great quick set up unit, the power cords & signal chords for the SD1 & my Fender 1270P monitor store in the back of this unit. It also houses the VR petal & cord. I can also use my Sennheiser MD 421 regular mike or a Crown headset mike. I just pull out one power cord in the back of the box to power up everything –except my powered speakers.