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#188342 - 11/19/01 09:53 AM Re: PSR2000 Report Update !
Rodrigues Offline
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Registered: 09/20/99
Posts: 95
Loc: Portugal
Hi,

About Beat indication, are you all forgetting that PSR 2000 has in the Main screen a Beat indicator using numbers for beat 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4...? and also a measure counting, changing at the first beat ?
So, for the same purpose there are two methods: one led with two colours and numbers in the screen.

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Carlos Rodrigues

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#188343 - 11/19/01 10:25 AM Re: PSR2000 Report Update !
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
Carlos: Thanks for pointing out the LCD beat 'changing number' indicator on the main screen, but...

I find watching the pale LCD numbers 'changing shape' more confusing than helpful. I MUCH prefer the four LED (red for beat ONE, green for others 3 beats) approach better. Seeing a 'fixed size' illuminated LED moving left to right just makes more sense when you're trying to get into the rythmic groove and find the downbeat ONE.
Just my opinion. - Scott
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#188344 - 11/19/01 10:53 AM Re: PSR2000 Report Update !
Tom Cavanaugh Offline
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Registered: 12/06/99
Posts: 2133
Loc: Muskegon, MI
Scott and the others,

I find all this discussion about the beat indicators rather interesting. I never need to watch the beat indicator to tell if I'm on beat one or not. That is why the good Lord gave me ears. They tell me where the beat is. For those of us that play with a live drummer and bass player there never was a beat indicator. Quit whining and use your ears. You should never be so engrossed in what you are playing that you forget to listen to the music.

Tom
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#188345 - 11/19/01 11:07 AM Re: PSR2000 Report Update !
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
Sam,
The count intro, simple endings, etc., are not gone. You must select them from the screen though. A little less friendly.
DonM
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#188346 - 11/20/01 12:54 AM Re: PSR2000 Report Update !
Joe Waters Offline
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Registered: 01/08/01
Posts: 225
Loc: Sterling, VA USA
Quote:
Originally posted by Carlos Rodrigues:
Hi,
About Beat indication, are you all forgetting that PSR 2000 has in the Main screen a Beat indicator using numbers for beat 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4...? and also a measure counting, changing at the first beat ?


Forgetting? No, I hadn't even noticed that! That beat indicator is in the Lyrics section of the main screen and I hadn't noticed it. That solves my problem. Thanks a bunch Carlos!

Tom, I do have ears and can easily hear the first beat for most styles. But I encountered some styles, with only a piano playing softly in the background - no bass, no rhythm, no strumming -- , and it wasn't at all obvious where the first beat was.
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#188347 - 11/20/01 07:37 AM Re: PSR2000 Report Update !
Tom Cavanaugh Offline
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Registered: 12/06/99
Posts: 2133
Loc: Muskegon, MI
OK
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#188348 - 11/20/01 02:38 PM Re: PSR2000 Report Update !
Nobby Offline
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Registered: 09/17/00
Posts: 707
Loc: Palmyra Mo. U.S.A.
[QUOTE]Originally Mic volume level: You must press a button to go into a submenu. Would prefer a physical volume slider or knob instead.
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Scottee, The 2000 does have a mic. volume knob on the rear! Go Figure!!
Why didn't they put it on top so you could reach it.
Nobby


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[This message has been edited by Nobby (edited 11-20-2001).]
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#188349 - 11/20/01 03:33 PM Re: PSR2000 Report Update !
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
Tom: what did you say about 'using our ears' again? I couldn't quite 'hear' you.

Nobby: You're right about the mic knob being on the back of the keyboard, but please remember, this specific mic knob is really only to be used for making initial mic 'input' settings. After you set it, you just leave it alone. All futher mic level adjustments should be made using the mic volume level control which appears on the PSR2000 screen.

BTW: I now 'take back' my initial complaint about having to go into 'submenu' screen to access the mic volume slider. I recently realized that you can easily set things up to have ALL the PSR2000's volume balances (including mic volume level) appear on the MAIN Page all the time. By just pressing the 'Balance' button, The MAIN page will then permanently display all the PSR2000's volume balance levels (until you want to change it). You are now able to both view (at all times) and adjust the volume levels (at a moments notice). Life is GOOD!
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#188350 - 11/10/02 09:36 PM Re: PSR2000 Report Update !
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
"FLASHBACK"..................

Hmmmmmmmmm funny how things change in time!

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#188351 - 11/11/02 12:37 PM Re: PSR2000 Report Update !
squeak_D Offline
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Registered: 10/08/00
Posts: 4715
Loc: West Virginia
(originally posted by Joe Waters)
I do question the usefulness of the "tutorial" built into the machine. It may be useful in selling, but do owners need this all the time? Why couldn't the tutorial functions be provided on a floppy to be used when the machine is new or when needed. I would have prefered that memory space be used for storing more "user" styles or registrations.
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Joe I totally agree with this.. One keyboard I've owned that did this was Casio MZ-2000.. Bluezplayer remembers this too. The "help" was on a disk. They didn't take up space for this.. If you didn't understand something you just loaded in the disk and selected what you wanted to better understand. I also think the internal demos are pointless too.. Granted they help the salesperson demo the board, but what use do we get out of them? I think these should also be on a disk as well. This gives more room for sound and features (something we all want)...

Squeak
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