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#189051 - 07/01/03 01:31 PM Re: Collaborative tune w/ Tony W
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Originally posted by trtjazz:
Fran was correct they are vibes meant to just accent a counter beat to the main theme hence the same notes (something akin to a heartbeat), for the "Hearts &"
Terry


Terry: I'm beginning to feel a little like walking on eggshells here in my attempt to offer constructive feedback, so please don't take this wrong.

If a distracting type atonal (out of key) effect is really what you're after in your song, then fine, but (to emulate a hearbeat), I recommend replacing the 'pitched' (vibe) voice with a 'non pitched' type (drum:tom?) sound instead.

Utlizing a 'non pitched' type sound will eliminate the 'out of key' disonance that's currently going on when the chord harmony changes, yet the vibe's pitch doesn't. I really think your song has 'a lot' going for it, so sincerely hope you will re-consider making this minor change to your song so you (and others here) might hear and compare the difference yourself. Then again, I promise not to get my undies "bunched up" if you don't take me up on my suggestion either. - Scott
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#189052 - 07/01/03 01:59 PM Re: Collaborative tune w/ Tony W
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Scott, thanks for the good suggestions, I appreciate the thought you put into it.
Terry
P.S. You don't have to walk on eggshells no offense taken, good criticisms.
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#189053 - 07/01/03 05:38 PM Re: Collaborative tune w/ Tony W
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#189054 - 07/02/03 02:45 AM Re: Collaborative tune w/ Tony W
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Everyone needs to remember also that you are listening to MP3 recordings that have lossy compression and can ( and will ) cause artifacts and phase problems in certain frequency bands. Most MP3s I hear do not even equal well recorded tape cassettes. While it is nice to listen to MP3s using high quality monitors it is impossible to accurately judge sound quality from MP3 recordings, just the performance and musicality. Until bandwidth allows us to download uncompressed audio judging sound quality is futile.

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#189055 - 07/03/03 12:39 AM Re: Collaborative tune w/ Tony W
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I only should trust to what my ears are telling me, apart from what kind of Hi-Fi chain I use.

So, strings aren't too loud to me. I only think that the voice is a little too unnatural. So, being the man at the mixer, I will turn the voice effect balance knob a little to the "dry" direction.

Finally, regarding the song, Terry's style is very present... can we hear the original song somewhere?

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#189056 - 07/03/03 06:01 AM Re: Collaborative tune w/ Tony W
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Quote:
Originally posted by RicFreak:
I only should trust to what my ears are telling me, apart from what kind of Hi-Fi chain I use.

So, strings aren't too loud to me. I only think that the voice is a little too unnatural. So, being the man at the mixer, I will turn the voice effect balance knob a little to the "dry" direction.

Finally, regarding the song, Terry's style is very present... can we hear the original song somewhere?


If Tony wants to make the original available to me again, I would be glad to host it for a short period on my site for comparison. Tony?
Terry

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#189057 - 07/03/03 06:57 PM Re: Collaborative tune w/ Tony W
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Hello All,
I don't mind if anyone wants to hear the original song BUT... please note....
The mp3 is and was only my rough recording of the idea of a song made as I was writing it.

It was only ever intended to give Terry a rough idea of the words and melody.

As it was never intended for public consumption I never bothered to adjust levels etc. and have never recorded this myself (apart from this first version) as I just can't sing it properly.

My original version is darker (IMO) than Terrys and more 'durge' like .

Still I suppose it will show the contrast between Terrys style and my own and how the mix of the two came about and how the two styles work together.
anyway here it is ..... http://members.sniffout.com/nsymon/hearts&violins.mp3

You would not believe the trouble I had even finding this mp3. For a while I did not even thing I kept it!
Best to all
Tony W

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#189058 - 07/03/03 07:28 PM Re: Collaborative tune w/ Tony W
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Tony, I had forgotten what your original sounded like, it was cool to hear it again. What a difference between two IMO good versions.
Terry

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#189059 - 07/04/03 06:55 AM Re: Collaborative tune w/ Tony W
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Thanks Tony.

I'll listen to both.

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#189060 - 07/04/03 06:09 PM Re: Collaborative tune w/ Tony W
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Hi Terry,
Yes the difference is startling! Having not listened to it since I sent it to you many moons ago I was quite surprised. Like I said I did not even think I had kept a copy of the mp3 I made so I have come to think of your version as the 'real' version

Best to you
Tony

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