ok guys, lets see how you vote,if yamaha was to bring out the NEW TYROS WITH FULL SIZE KEYS ,would you buy one ,i,m not sure how many members there are on this site maybe nigel will tell us,mike

If Yamaha came out with one in the next week or so I could return my Tyros and exchange it for the Full sized Key one. I'm still under the 30 day refund, exchange warranty from GC. But as to your question mike, I would buy one in a heartbeat if I didn't already own the 'original' undersized keys Tyros. And I would sell the house if necessary if they came out with a 76 Key 'full sized' Key version with onboard Speakers and kept the weight under 40 lbs. Well maybe not sell the house but you get the picture, right? I want it, I want it, I WANT IT!!

How do we convince Yammie to make it???

Best regards,
Mike

The Tyros is out of my price range, but I would not discount a Yamaha keyboard because of key size and feel. For me the biggest factor is the quality of the voices, especially the piano and organs. A 76 key version would also play a factor. Looking forward to playing the new Roland EXR-5. If the voices are of a better quality then the PSR550/PSR1000 then the Roland will get the sale. The Roland keyboard will most likely have full size quality keys as a bonus. I think it will be a challenge for Roland to beat the Yamaha sweet voices, but they should be able to win in the piano and organ categories.
Starkeeper

Geez, you guys!

No, I'm happy with and keepin the Tyros I already got.

On the other hand, I would MUCH MORE appreciate if Yamaha would just correct the Tyros' remote foot pedal problem by adding the 'continously repeating' FILL TO SELF feature triggered via remote foot pedal. This feature is already included on all other Yamaha arrangers: 9000pro, PSR2000, PSR2100.

As a LIVE arranger keyboard entertainer, this is a most important & useful feature and which I believe is easily correctable via a simple OS update.

STEVE DEMING: Any word from Yamaha Japan on this yet?

Thanks, - Scott

Yamaha has 76 note keyboard models in their lower quality line-up, why don't they have a 76 note PSR550 or 76 note PSR2100? These models are for more serious musicians who would appreciate a 76 note arranger. Would you buy a full size key, great feel, 76 note PSR2100? I would.
Starkeeper

Probably not. I want the smallest lightest portable arranger keyboard possible. Admittedly, for solo piano style playing I want 76 or better yet 88 notes and to also include 'fully' weighted piano action, but for strictly arranger style performance, a 61 note keyboard with non weighted synth action is adequate for me. AFterall, as I've mentioned before, playing a 5 octave 61 note arranger in split mode, with split point set at F#1 provides 1-1/2 octaves for left hand chording and nearly 3-1/2 octaves for the right hand, which is actually close to the same amount of notes allocated & typically played by the right hand (middle C to top note) of an 88 note piano.

Scott

Geeze! I'm going to get myself a beer, maybe two or three, then switch on the 2000 and work on some new songs. Just received an email from an old friend that puts things like this in perspective. Thought I would pass it along to the good folks on this forum.
Life and a Can of Beer
When things in your life seem almost too much to handle, when 24 hours in a day are not enough, remember the mayonnaise jar... and the beer.

A professor stood before his philosophy class and had some items in front of him. When the class began, wordlessly, he picked up a very large and empty mayonnaise jar and proceeded to fill it with golf balls.
He then asked the students if the jar was full. They agreed that it was.

So the professor then picked up a box of pebbles and poured them into the jar. He shook the jar lightly. The pebbles rolled into the open areas between golf balls. He then asked the students again if the jar was full. They agreed it was.

The professor next picked up a box of sand and poured it into the jar. Of course, the sand filled up everything else. He asked once more if the jar was full. The students responded with a unanimous "yes."

The professor then produced two cans of beer from under the table and poured the entire contents into the jar, effectively filling the empty space between the sand. The students laughed. "Now," said the professor, as the laughter subsided, "I want you to recognize that this jar represents your life.

The golf balls are the important things--your family, your children, your health, your friends, your favorite passions--things that if everything else was lost and only they remained, your life would still be full.

"The pebbles are the other things that matter like your job, your house, your car. The sand is everything else--the small stuff.

"If you put the sand into the jar first," he continued, "there is no room for the pebbles or the golf balls. The same goes for life. If you spend all your time and energy on the small stuff, you will never have room for the things that are important to you. Pay attention to the things that are critical to your happiness. Play with your children. Take time to get medical checkups. Take your spouse out to dinner. Play another 18. There will always be time to clean the house, and fix the disposal.

"Take care of the golf balls first, the things that really matter. Set your priorities. The rest is just sand." One of the students raised her hand and inquired what the beer represented.

The professor smiled. "I'm glad you asked. It just goes to show you that no matter how full your life may seem,
there's always room for a couple of beers."
A very wise professor, indeed!

Coors Light Please!

Gary

You already know my answer....no way unless they put speakers in it.
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Full size keys
GOOD feel
same great sounds and patterns
RH chord recognition
RH harmony hold feature
......then I'll think about a new Yamaha.

I was just thinking about this as I looked over my PSR2000 for one last time before mailing it out to it's new owner ( DNJ ). If only the key feel had been better, it would still be sitting here. There are a lot of things I liked about it, and I'll miss the yamaha styles.

I'd like the Tyros. It "feels" fine, key size and all. I would like it better if Yamaha made a 2100 with the same keys as the Tyros, or the Tyros with speakers in it. Ultimately, I can't have that, so my studio no longer includes a Yamaha arranger, although if I really wanted another one and had to make a choice, I would rather have the Tyros and could live with no speakers than have a 2000 / 2100. Maybe the next Yamaha arranger will make me happy. Maybe not. We'll see....

AJ

No...Except for the Live, Cool and Sweet sounds the rest of the tones are bland[average]..The Roland VA tone group is way superior across all the tones[probally stereo samples make the difference as it does with Yamaha sweet,live and cool tones]..If Roland applys it's already know how in a new arranger[and they will]..Yamaha will have to be a follower again in the PRO market..Roland is just better quality....and I will just say NO..

Not really on topic, but I was wondering does anyone know how much the speaker system for the Tyros weights, and does it come with an easy way to transport the speakers?

Just curious, and I am sure one of you will know.

Thanks,

Paul

The current registration count is 12,082. It is hard to tell though how many of these members are still active and I know some members have registered more than once under different email addresses.

Hi Paul,

Yamaha Tyros TRS-MS01 speaker system:

Subwoofer unit:
350 mm (13.8") x 210mm (8.3") x 321mm (12.6")
8.0 kg (17 lbs. 10 oz)

Satellites (2 ea)
97mm (3.8") x 174mm (6.9") x 178mm (7")
.7 kg (1 lb. 9 oz) x 2

I mounted a steel (zinc?) plated stationary pull type handle (held by wood screws) to the top of my subwoofer unit and also mounted 4 rubber feet to the bottom of the unit (also secured with wood screws).

It's now real easy to quickly pick up & transport the subwoofer (by the handle) as well as easily set the unit into place under the KB. The handle & rubber feet suggestion was given to me by a Tyros buddy in Australia. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED for convenient portability, and it looks pro too. If anyone wishes, provide your email address & I'll email you a pic of the sub woofer unit with mounted handle & feet.

The Tyros Satellites are both small & very light, and will easily slip into a small padded gig bag.

Scott