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#190962 - 03/09/05 07:34 PM Re: Tyros vs. Pa1xpro
eddy awada Offline
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Registered: 12/14/99
Posts: 636
Loc: MI,usa
Paolo
Anthing new about the Mixer lock.

Also I know I've mentioned this before and you said it was being looked at, when switching between styles, if you hit a FILL IN then you switch from one style to another and you change to a different variation, it changes the style but it doesn't change to the desired variation, instead it keep the current variation playing, any news about that?
Thanks
Eddy

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#190963 - 03/14/05 08:59 AM Re: Tyros vs. Pa1xpro
ptram Offline
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Registered: 02/14/05
Posts: 55
Hi Eddy,

Quote:
Paolo, Anthing new about the Mixer lock.


Under testing.

Best regards,
Paolo

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#190964 - 03/14/05 12:51 PM Re: Tyros vs. Pa1xpro
George Kaye Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 3305
Loc: Reseda, California USA
Tyros II is only 61 keys, not 76!
The 76 note models are:

Roland G70
Korg PA1XPRO
Ketron SD1plus

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#190965 - 03/14/05 01:02 PM Re: Tyros vs. Pa1xpro
BlkNotes Offline
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Registered: 02/01/05
Posts: 220
Dear George;

Do you know for sure that the Tyros II is going to be 61 notes? Also, do you have an idea of when it is to be released in North America?


Thanks
Regards;
BN

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#190966 - 03/16/05 02:00 PM Re: Tyros vs. Pa1xpro
BlkNotes Offline
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Registered: 02/01/05
Posts: 220
Dear George;

On having possesion of a G-70 in your store now, have you changed your previous opinion concerning the G-70?


Regards;
BN

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#190967 - 03/16/05 02:34 PM Re: Tyros vs. Pa1xpro
freddynl Offline
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Registered: 11/17/99
Posts: 1150
Loc: netherlands
Quote:
Originally posted by keybplayer:
After playing the Korg Pa1XPRO recently I concur that it is a great Arranger Keyboard with the sounds ranging from good to excellent in nearly every category.

The only thing(s) that have held me back from getting one is the lack of Polyphony (62 vs 128 for the Tyros),

Best regards,
Mike

[This message has been edited by keybplayer (edited 03-07-2005).]


Mike,
The polyphony issue is very often no issue at all! It just depends how much multilayers each board needs to achieve same sound result.
It could be that the Yamaha needs double or more multilayers for a particular sound compared to the Korg.
If that's the case your double polyphony is lost and you are better off with the Korg as this also means that the basic sound rom is better and therefore better tweakable as well.
I don't have the Korg or the Yamaha but if someone could compare this A/B you have the real result.

Fred
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#190968 - 03/16/05 02:40 PM Re: Tyros vs. Pa1xpro
frankieve Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 1675
Loc: Milford, CT, USA
Since I have both I can agree with that statement.

I have notice that the sounds of the Yamaha are very good, but seem very thin, almost all of the Yamaha sounds in thier base form have at least 2 wavesamples layered, which would mean the Polyphony would be be half just by that comparison,

The Korg sounds are much fuller, In both defense I never had a Polyphony issue on the Korg or Yamaha.

So I don;t think the Polyphony really matters that much, I did have a problem with my SD1
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#190969 - 03/21/05 12:12 AM Re: Tyros vs. Pa1xpro
chony Offline
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Registered: 03/10/04
Posts: 1247
Loc: New York
The reason you need high polyphony on the Yamaha is bc each voice is made up of up to four waveforms. That means that holding a four note chord with R1,2and3 would take up 48 sounds before we start dealing with the accompaniment waveforms. Also the polyphony counts all the way until the release fades out.

On the Korg are the voices that complex ie do they have 4 waveforms for each sounds?

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#190970 - 03/21/05 06:40 AM Re: Tyros vs. Pa1xpro
frankieve Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 1675
Loc: Milford, CT, USA
The PA1x voices I feel are the most realistic sounding on a arranger ( my opinion) They will use up to 2 oscillators when needed but, the single osc(wave) is mostly used.

either or I still haven't lost notes on the Korg, or maybe I have but the way they do it I don't notice.

When I had drop outs on the SD1, you would hear it!!!

A friend of mine just bought my Tyros, don't get me wrong, I'll probably buy the Tyros 2, but right now I'm leaning toward the G70,
I think mostly because alot of people don't like it, makes me want to prove them wrong,
ha ha
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