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#193447 - 01/01/06 09:04 AM Auditions versus demo's
SemiLiveMusic Offline
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You give a prospective venue a CD with demo's. They could toss it. Or they could assume many things about you that could be in err... and not in your favor.

If you offer to audition, to play a set for free or maybe an entire evening, they have your smiling face, audience interaction, all the good things about live performance. Basing their conclusion of the real you.

Just wondering if you guys think it would be beneficial to do this versus hand someone a CD.

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#193448 - 01/01/06 09:11 AM Re: Auditions versus demo's
Dnj Offline
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Live audition makes it happen

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#193449 - 01/01/06 09:59 AM Re: Auditions versus demo's
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Wouldn't a live audition on DVD be easier for all concerned?
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#193450 - 01/01/06 10:24 AM Re: Auditions versus demo's
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It makes sense unless one had an agent,eg ,that was busy talking you up at several venues at once. Also, since copies are cheap, once the master is done, the two approaches could be used together.
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#193451 - 01/01/06 10:36 AM Re: Auditions versus demo's
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IMHO there is NOTHING like a live audition ... I feel that part of what we have to offer is our personality, and you can't get the feel of that on a CD or even a DVD ...
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#193452 - 01/01/06 10:50 AM Re: Auditions versus demo's
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LIVE = HONEST Product to a Client....

eg: Do you wanna taste the food or look at a picture of it? I wouldnt risk my business or customers on a DVD, CD, Video, or any other possibly doctored media..... lets hear & see what ya got live & I'll tell ya if your hired bottom line?

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#193453 - 01/01/06 11:22 AM Re: Auditions versus demo's
mikeathome1 Offline
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Registered: 08/23/04
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Most owners/managers are busy and will toss or lose a demo long before they get to see it. They won't go see you at another gig even if it is next door. There is so much competition for the gig the guy that takes the extra step gets the first call.


Of course I could be wrong and

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#193454 - 01/01/06 11:48 AM Re: Auditions versus demo's
Songman55 Offline
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Definitely live verses demo. Another word for demo is demolition.

Good luck,

Joe

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#193455 - 01/01/06 12:31 PM Re: Auditions versus demo's
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Live works for me. I send out lots of CDs, however, the best job getter out there is when someone see a live performance and evaluates you as an entertainer. You just cannot do that with a CD.

Cheers,

Gary

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#193456 - 01/01/06 01:02 PM Re: Auditions versus demo's
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Many business owners are gun-shy of Live Demos as some of the acts they see are terrible and in many cases the owners throw them out after just 1 or 2 songs. I think the demo sets the bar, and a follow-up "audition gig" is the best way to go to give the business owner a comfort zone.
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#193457 - 01/01/06 05:34 PM Re: Auditions versus demo's
SemiLiveMusic Offline
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I think that live is the way to go. I watched DonM do his thing. We went together and live is way better than a CD. Plus, I am always concerned that a c.d. I give someone, it's nice but they might never even listen to your c.d. I thing they are hit with so much, even a good one, they never hear it. You're sunk from the get-go.

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#193458 - 01/02/06 06:56 AM Re: Auditions versus demo's
DonM Offline
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Loc: Benton, LA, USA
As far as I can remember, I've never gotten a job from a CD. But I don't think I've ever done a free audition either. I remember once years ago getting a job by telling the guy that if he didn't like what I did after the first hour then he didn't have to pay me.
However, I am the World's Worst at hunting work. If it doesn't seek me out, I'm in trouble. Most of my work comes from referrals or from tips from fellow musicians.
Oh, I just remembered, one time in South Louisiana, back in the early 80s, I went into a place with a cassette tape and player. I played it for the guy, and he said, "That's really great. I can put you in this weekend. How many in your band?" I told him he was looking at the band, and then he said, "Oh no, I have to have a whole band!" I still run into this today. In fact, it is even worse now. I've lost jobs that I played as a single for years and years because now they have to have a "full band", even though the customers would prefer me. I suppose it is because of the Karaoke phenomenon.
While I'm rambling, I had a girl come up New Year's Eve and demand to see my playbook. I told her I didn't have one, and she asked "then how will I know what I'm going to sing". I told her that was easy, she wasn't going to sing anything. People often just don't recognize the difference between live music, arranger music, K******, DJ, etc.
As Dylan said, "The times they are a changin'".
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#193459 - 01/03/06 07:17 AM Re: Auditions versus demo's
Songman55 Offline
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Registered: 06/24/05
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Loc: Baltimore, MD USA
This is funny and it just happened. I got a call while I was in Florida last week from a facility I'd never heard of who wanted to book me and said they had my demo CD. I didn't remember sending any out so I thought that was strange. I talked with them yesterday and they jogged my memory. About a year and a half ago I attended a senior expo and gave out promo packets that included a demo CD. A year and a half later this is the first one I've heard from and I did book the job. So they do work. I still prefer live and I always try and invite prospective clients to live gigs.

Salud,

Joe

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#193460 - 01/03/06 07:34 AM Re: Auditions versus demo's
GlennT Offline
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Registered: 12/01/02
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Loc: Medina, OH, USA
It depends how good your live performance really is. The better you are, the more advantageous the live audition vs a demo CD. OTOH... last summer I saw a Beetles cover band who's performance was IMO below average. When being introduced, the sponser stated that this was the first time she hired a band without hearing them in person, but she was so impressed with their press kit.

I was curious enough to obtain a copy of their press kit and it really was fantastic... photos, press released endorsements, and a CD that sounded better than they sounded live.

IMO, go the route which gives the better impression of YOUR performance... preferably live, but keeping in mind, you can, in addition, cover more ground by also using demo CDs.

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