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#195205 - 10/10/06 03:03 PM ot/ Smoking ban hits Scotland........
Dnj Offline
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3996587.stm


Little by little it will be WORLD WIDE....
IM glad my state did it last year and many others will follow soon.....makes for lots of clean air gigs also. Will growing tobacco be outlawed down the road also to finalize all this banning?

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#195206 - 10/10/06 03:07 PM Re: ot/ Smoking ban hits Scotland........
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Originally posted by Dnj:
Will growing tobacco be outlawed down the road also to finalize all this banning?


I doubt it. Why should it? I don't care if people smoke, just don't do it around me. But... I'd sure hate to be a tobacco grower. Actually, I don't understand how so many thousands of Caroline families can grow that stuff with a clear conscience. Tobacco is the dumbest thing ever invented, IMO. Follow the money, that's all I know.

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#195207 - 10/10/06 03:15 PM Re: ot/ Smoking ban hits Scotland........
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You reminded me of a goofy story song I wrote. Here's the lyric for your reading agony. I don't know if I have recorded a demo or not, don't recall.

This song was born from my musing one night at a bar, "Who the hell invented cigarettes? Who was this idiot?" I thought of a caveman, "Hey, Gonzo, let's pick some big leaves, dry them, roll them, light them, and suck smoke into our lungs. That oughta be nice!"

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“KEN THE CONMAN CAVEMAN” - Bill Pittman
©2004 Bill Pittman All rights reserved

Ken the conman caveman started it
Ken invented booze and cigarettes
First Dthing was blueberry beer
Then found tobacco leaves grew here
Told Gonzo, See these leaves, I got an idear

Ken said when they're dry, we'll roll 'em tight
We'll light the end and suck with all our might
Gonzo said Aw, come on, Ken
Who would want to suck smoke in
You're just drunk, your logic sure is thin

But Ken the conman caveman was a pro
Drank blueberry beer, made Gonzo roll
Movin' 'round the campfire there
Dodging campfire smoke for air
Gonzo said, See, Ken, smoke's bad, I swear

Soon, Gonzo 'as puffin' like a train
Caveman peer pressure was to blame
Then Ken said Let's hunt a deer
We'll take cigarettes and beer
They wheezed thru the forest, all could hear

A cigarette was dangling from his lip
Gonzo said, Hey, Ken, we sure look hip
Ken said Yeah, at caveman school
I was voted Mr. Cool
And when you got it, use it, that's a rule

Somehow, Ken got tangled up in vines
Stompin' 'round, discovered he'd made wine
Wine and cigarettes and beer
Just like rednecks hunt a deer
Where that came from, now, that much is clear

Yeah, Ken the conman caveman did us in
Sold the rights to homo sapiens
Adam fell for anything
When it came to pleasing Eve
And Eve said Ken was sexy, blowing rings

Ken and Gonzo fin'lly lost their mind
Neanderthal, a victim of the vine
Ken's wife, Barb cut off the kiss
And Gonzo's wife stayed really pissed
Booze and cigarettes did all of this

They all died without a single kid
Thank God, Eve and Adam fin'lly did
It could happen again, homo sapiens
Ken the conman caveman started it

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#195208 - 10/10/06 03:20 PM Re: ot/ Smoking ban hits Scotland........
Dnj Offline
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Bill what gets me is when I see a big company like Phillip Morris, etc . doing a Commercial on TV telling people not to smoke!!! meanwhile they make the product?

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#195209 - 10/10/06 04:09 PM Re: ot/ Smoking ban hits Scotland........
tony mads usa Offline
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Originally posted by Dnj:
Bill what gets me is when I see a big company like Phillip Morris, etc . doing a Commercial on TV telling people not to smoke!!! meanwhile they make the product?


It's "don't smoke, but if you must, smoke OURS .... " ...
Tobacco growing won't be banned until the growers find another way to make the money ... and think of all the people that would be out of work ?!? ...
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#195210 - 10/10/06 06:50 PM Re: ot/ Smoking ban hits Scotland........
Dnj Offline
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Why just let the PEOPLE VOTE at election time if Tobacco should be banned or not?

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#195211 - 10/11/06 01:07 PM Re: ot/ Smoking ban hits Scotland........
keybplayer Offline
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Registered: 10/27/03
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Originally posted by Dnj:
Bill what gets me is when I see a big company like Phillip Morris, etc . doing a Commercial on TV telling people not to smoke!!! meanwhile they make the product?


What gets my goat even more is the Tobacco companies, even though they have commercials saying smoking is hazardous to your health etc., have "intentionally" increased the amount of Nicotine in cigarettes over the last several years. Nicotine as we all know is the ingredient in smokes that gets you addicted. So even though they say "don't start" etc., they have nevertheless 'intentionally' made it more difficult for those wanting to quit to do so by increasing the amount of Nicotine in their tobacco products. It was a very carefully orchestrated and deliberate undertaking to keep you addicted so they could continue to profit from your addiction.

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Mike
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#195212 - 10/11/06 01:13 PM Re: ot/ Smoking ban hits Scotland........
SemiLiveMusic Offline
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Originally posted by Dnj:
Why just let the PEOPLE VOTE at election time if Tobacco should be banned or not?


I hate it as much as anyone but do you honestly think that is a rational thing? Heck, there'd be a civil war. Or, at least, a couple of million murders. Something like 25% of the population smokes. (USA)

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#195213 - 10/11/06 02:30 PM Re: ot/ Smoking ban hits Scotland........
Impuls Offline
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You better can buy a gun on every streetcorner like in te US ?

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#195214 - 10/12/06 12:32 PM Re: ot/ Smoking ban hits Scotland........
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Anyone can tell you how well Prohibition worked out for the US........ Bankrolled and bootstrapped organized crime (and the Kennedy's), and criminalized millions of ordinary Americans for doing nothing other that rebel against an unjust law. And it actually resulted in MORE people drinking (especially women) than before it started.

It is long past time that ALL non-lethal drugs be decriminalized, and only the consequences of misuse should be penalized, like alcohol is now. The history of drug criminalization (especially in the US) is a racist tragedy that has done nothing to stop usage and crime. It is long passed time to stop declaring un-winnable 'wars' on ill-defined foes.

By all means, ban public smoking (and pot use and anything else), but Prohibition is a lesson no-one seems to even care about, yet alone apply to modern problems.

Criminalize the consequences of drug use, NOT the drug use itself....... and take the profits away from the criminals, and use them to mitigate the problem, not exacerbate it.
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