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#202445 - 01/26/07 05:11 AM Small back-up PA head...
captain Russ Offline
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I need a small back-up powered PA. Have plenty of speakers.


Anyone have experience with the Yamaha EMX series? They make one that is 200 watts stereo, 8 channels (replacing A
Carvin with 6) 22 lbs. Can be run in stereo or you can use one amp to power monitors. Effects, rca in. $369 from Musicians Friend, no shipping charges and a free mic.

Anyone have or have experience with any of these series. There are three models-different power-300 and 500 watts on the others, I believe.

thanks,

Russ

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#202446 - 01/26/07 05:28 AM Re: Small back-up PA head...
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http://www.mackie.com/products/406m/index.html

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#202447 - 01/26/07 05:46 AM Re: Small back-up PA head...
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Russ,

I've used the EMX series for years as my main PA head and never had a problem. I still have a couple of old ones sitting around as backups. I quit using the not because they didn't work, I just thought it was time to replace them. Great little units.

Joe

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#202448 - 01/26/07 05:52 AM Re: Small back-up PA head...
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I have used this head on the job it works great with my 10" Yamaha speakers. It's easy to carry with shoulder strap and has decent effects and EQ.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Soundcraft-GigRac-300-8Channel-Powered-Mixer?sku=630923

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#202449 - 01/26/07 06:43 AM Re: Small back-up PA head...
captain Russ Offline
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Thanks, Hank. that unit looks interesting, but I need to power monitors, sometimes and avoid taking a 2nd power amp.

Russ

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#202450 - 01/26/07 08:43 AM Re: Small back-up PA head...
Tom Cavanaugh Offline
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Russ,

I have a Yamaha powered pa. I don't have the model number with me but it has three 200w amps built in. Two are for stereo and 1 for monitors. For solo jobs I run my keyboard through the L & R with the speakers more or less behind me and then I use the monitor channel for the vocals with the speakers more to the front. It works well.

I do have to say that Uncle Dave never liked this amp because the effects, which are only reverb, aren't very good. I use the reverb from my SD-1 anyway so I don't really care.

I also like the fact that if I should ever lose a channel I still have two left.

I have had no trouble with it.

Tom

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#202451 - 01/26/07 09:02 AM Re: Small back-up PA head...
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#202452 - 01/26/07 09:38 AM Re: Small back-up PA head...
captain Russ Offline
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Thanks, Don. A friend of mine has this system, and brings it when we work together. I don't like it at all. I know you, Dave and lot's of others are crazy about it, but not me. It may be that the thing was against a wall or it may be the setting he used, but I'd never be happy with it.

I'm comfortable with a 20 lb head and one or two small speakers. I helped pack-up and load this system, with two bass units, and it was cumbersome and big.

It's just not what I want. Relly don't like the "fake bass" and lack on mids on anything Bose makes.


Russ

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#202453 - 01/26/07 11:28 AM Re: Small back-up PA head...
DonM Offline
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Russ, I understand, but obviously your friend doesn't have it set up right.
And the only thing the extra bass module does it let you play louder. I've never been in a situation that one won't handle.
There are PLENTY of mids on mine, and the bass is anything but fake.
Also, I found setup if far easier than dealing with speakers, stands and monitor system.
To each his own!
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#202454 - 01/26/07 01:31 PM Re: Small back-up PA head...
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I have a Yamaha EMX series powered mixer.... no problems. Get the most powerful you can (stereo 500 watts) even for backup, there is no substitute for clean power - better to run a 500 watt head at half power than a 250W at full........ and I would always recommend a stereo one over mono, any day. Modern arrangers beg to be used in stereo, in fact, many have sonic problems played in mono.

I prefer the bigger, mixer-like powered mixers. They have two independent FX units, and a very good tap-delay - great for tempo synching ballads and the like. But they are more expensive. Perhaps one as your main PA, and use what you have now as the backup...?
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#202455 - 01/26/07 06:31 PM Re: Small back-up PA head...
Scott Langholff Offline
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Loc: Pensacola, Florida, USA
I know the PMH2000 has been popular among some of the SZ members. I have seen and used one. It is a good unit.
http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHPMX2000

The PMH880S is a newer one by Behringer with more power and only weighs 19 pounds.
http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHPMX880S

Scott
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#202456 - 01/26/07 08:15 PM Re: Small back-up PA head...
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Carvin makes a swell unit that has dual amps for mains as well as monitors. FOUR 300 watt amps - 12 channels, road case ... looks great - never heard it.
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#202457 - 01/27/07 11:33 AM Re: Small back-up PA head...
captain Russ Offline
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Loc: Lexington, Ky, USA
Dave...guess what? I've got the Carvin...three power amps...8 channels. 20 lbs. Works great...just wanted a smaller back-up.

Russ

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#202458 - 01/27/07 12:11 PM Re: Small back-up PA head...
George Kaye Offline
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Loc: Reseda, California USA
Captain Russ,
The Yamaha EMX212S is a new model from Yamaha. It is the smallest unit and it is stereo with 2 200WT power amps. They can be used as left and right or main and monitor. The new models are much louder than there older EMX series. They have built in effects including REV, Delays, Chorus, Flanger, Wah, etc. Two 7 band EQ's are supplied plus treble, mid and bass for each channel. Channels 1-4 are mono and channels 5 -12 are stero pairs.
The EMX512S looks exactly the same except for the 500 watts per channel and Channels 1 - 4 feature a new type of compressor gain knob. It is very easy to use. All the way to the left if you whisper you and scream into the mic you sound very soft and very loud, and all the way to the right, your whisper and scream sound the same! This is what you want a mic compressor to do. In gives you the ability to change your dynamic range easily.
Price for the EMX212S is $369 and the EMX512S is $569.
I stock both of these. I do not stock the EMX312SC which is 300WATTS at $469, but it is available as well. Most of my customers either want the 200watts or the 500 watts per channel.


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#202459 - 01/28/07 09:18 AM Re: Small back-up PA head...
J. Larry Offline
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Registered: 12/14/99
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Loc: University, MS 38677 USA
I'm currently using the Behringer PMH880S with a 4-piece group and with solo gigs. I love this compact, light-weight unit. No problems, as yet. And now, at NAMM '07, they've shown the new PMP 1280S at 1200 watts. Price expected at $499.99. http://www.behringer.com/01_news/events_namm07.cfm?lang=ENG

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#202460 - 01/30/07 07:09 AM Re: Small back-up PA head...
captain Russ Offline
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Registered: 01/02/04
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Loc: Lexington, Ky, USA
Just picked up the small 8 channel EMX 200 watt Yamaha. Wanted to try it out, so I didn't order it from George...wanted to, but hated to try something out at one store and order it from elseware.


Looks Like it will be fine for a back-up.

thanks,

Russ

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