Trying to figure out if I am doing something wrong or if it is something that can't be done with the PSR2000.
Taking a style from the preset;
changing the voices to the various parts; changing the volumes; etc
and saving it in the user category.
Works fine as long as you stay in the user area after the initial changes but if you go to another sytle and come back to it, the changes made are no longer there - seems to revert back to the original sytle I started with.
I also am totally confused about files and folders - could this be part of my problem here?
One more question, I've e-mailed Yamaha with other questions I've had and they referred me to motifhelp.tripod. I've had no luck getting to this site - anyone else have same problem?
Any help appreciated - Thanks

HI RicRob,
The way it was explaned to me (by Yamaha) is that first you have to save a folder and then save the information to that folder. I don`t have a 2000 right now to try so if it works, let me know.
Good Luck!! I hope this helps.
jedi

Hi RicRob,

Are you sure you are actually SAVING your changes? To actually save (or write over an existing) User style you must go to:

Function>DigitalRecording>Style Creator>Assembly Tab>Save

Also, a style can ONLY be saved to the User Memory Style Section, not directly to a floppy. You can later copy/paste a style from the User Style Section to a floppy though.

Hope this helps.

- Scott

This is not true. Folder creation is an option and NOT mandatory. You can save a style, song, or registration directly into the top (root) directory without creating a folder. - Scott

Are you SURE about the registrations Scott? So far, every time I forgot to put them in a folder - they were lost on power down. I think they NEED to be in a folder. The songs and styles however, do not.

YEP, it works on MY keyboard anyway. Though there are already 2 folders in my User Reg memory, I just created and stored a 'new' registration in the Reg User Root directory (not in a folder) and then shut down the KB and rebooted, and my new registration is STILL there. - Scott

So, when you power up, you can just hit reg#1 and it is there? I have to go to the registration section - select the folder - go back out, and select the individual registration before I can begin.

Scott
Thanks, you were right on - I wasn't saving properly.
One more problem solved, on to the next.

NO. You must first load your saved 'Registration Bank' at start up. I create a default' registration bank and save it in USER memory, but must always remember to load it first thing after powering the KB up. It's become automatic for me now.

Uncle Dave: I still don't understand why you are only able to store your Registration files if saved into folders. I have my default Registration file stored in the 'root directory' (not in a folder) of USER Registsration memory. - Scott

SCott,
Maybe I'm calling the "registration memory banks" as FOLDERS. At power up - there are NO registrations loaded, right? Right.
So - you go into the "J" button to access the different Reg "folders?" and pick one - then you can select from the 8 reg buttons on the front panel.
Maybe I'm calling the "folders" by the wrong name, but they certainly look to be set up that way. Small point at best - I only use one anyway ... at least until more features can be remembered in them.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Uncle Dave:

So - you go into the "J" button to access the different Reg "folders?" and pick one - then you can select from the 8 reg buttons on the front panel.....- I only use one anyway ... at least until more features can be remembered in them.

Uncle Dave...
If you are not saving Registrations that you use all the time to FLOPPY so that you can call them up in a nano-second, you are missing out on the #1 benefit of the PSR2K.

Unless I am totally misreading you, it sounds like you are only saving in the USER portion of the registration memory...and that is very limited compared to what you can save on a floppy.

Before I go on any further..do I have this right---you are not saving to floppy?

Eddie

Eddie,
Yes, that's true - I don't use floppies. At least, I haven't yet. I keep a few song files handy for things that I don't play much, or break music.
I can't imagine that the floppy is faster than the user section?

When you press "J" from the Main menu, you are taken to the first "Page" of Registration entries. This, like any other page, has 10 slots that can hold a registration file, OR a folder. To create a "folder," press NEW (#7) to create a folder on this page. If you have set your registration buttons (#1-#8), you can press SAVE (#6) to save that registration setup and give it a unique name. If you don't use many different registration setups, you won't need a folder on this page. When you turn on the 2000 the next time, the 8 registrations are all empty, but if you press "J", you will see the file you saved from the previous time, and you can then load it. You might "save" the original empty registrations with a name such as "BLANK" so that you can always clear out the current registration setup by loading the BLANK registration setup. You can also "Edit" a registration file by pressing the upper part of the #8 button. This will show you each of the 8 registration setups. From here you can give each of these a unique "name" or you "delete" one of the setups. From this view, pressing a corresponding letter key (A-D or F-I) produces the same result as pressing that registration button (1-4 and 5-8).

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Soooooo, I was right. Right?
The "J" button calls up FOLDERS of registrations. Am I missing something here?
Scott - what's all this about ROOTless directories?
(sorry ....couldn't resist !)

Not necessarily. The "J" button calls up the Registration Memory storage area which consists of 10 slots. These 10 slots (in the upper most directory) can be filled with the actual Registration Bank files themselves 'and/or' Folders.



I still assert that Folder creation is an 'option' and NOT mandatory. You can save a style, song, or registration directly into the top root directory (one of 10 slots) 'without' having to create a folder. On my PSR2000, the 'registration file' storage system works exactly the same as the songs and styles.

Uncle Dave: If your KB is actually not able to store Registration Memory files directly in the top directory (without having to create a folder), then there is definitely something WRONG with your board and you may need to contact Yamaha to 'root out' the problem. I'm rooting for U.

- Scott


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heh, heh (joke received)
I don't recall what they look like, but aren't the 10 directory locations marked with a folder as soon as you save a group of 10 registrations? This is such a small point, and I hate to beat a dead horse (now, a CAT - maybe !!)but I thought the icon came up as a folder - I'll have to take another look. Please don't waste anymore time on this issue - it's not important, to me anyway. Carry on, sailors !

Hi Uncle Dave,
You do know that Scott's right about the reg. memory. The first layer is the bank layer! But you can save single registrations on this level. I have even pushed the wrong buttons by mistake and saved them there!
The only time you get a folder is when you push the proper buttons and call up one. I have have never had to use one so far. Maybe later.
Once you have your first BANK 1 full 8 reg.,
create BANK 2 and fill ! continue ect.-----
BANK 3 --------- thru BANK 9 for BANK 10 you must change something or it will end up being placed below BANK 1!
Now I just use a dash BANK-10. End of Page 1
When you start BANK-11 it will be the starting of of Page 2!
When you use folders they're the 3rd layer and take much longer to get to when you need them quick! You have to find your BANK then your folder, then your reg. To many buttons
to fool with when your playing to a live audience! I believe I'm right on this, but I've been known to be wrong!
All the Best,
Nobby



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[This message has been edited by Nobby (edited 02-26-2002).]

"Oh", I forgot I transfer most to my to floppies, or record them direct!
One floppy I have over 200 song setups ready to go in about 10 sec. I have a voice programed with each setup. But most of the
time I just select one. I only have about a half dozen voices that I use on a regular bases anyway! G Piano, 2 or 3 Gtr's, Fiddle,Trumpet,Tener Sax & Modern Harp,I really have had fun with this voice playing single note or two note harmony and using the pitch bend!)It is great with blugrass! Well my wife just came home and brought my lunch so I've gotta go!
Talk later,
Nobby



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