I looked in on this and I like the subject. i get quite confused at times about it all and I kinda drift a bit -- I think we all need to talk about it and support each other. It is fun - it is work- it is tough at times. Sometimes it can seem that it is even "wrong" to practice in the "middle of a fine day" (YOU SHOULD BE WORKING!!!!!!) I liked your opening words Dave and I expect I will always watch for these type issues. Pierce