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#204887 - 09/18/07 01:46 PM My new keyboard set up
Fran Carango Offline
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Here is a photo of my new set up..

On the lower arms ..you will find a G70..the upper board is a PSR3000..

The Yamaha is midi'd to the G70...this way I can take advantage of the light touch for super fast organ rips..and also allows the use of the many smooth styles without any glitches..Just below the keys I have the icons[drums], for when I need to play manual drums[and can't remember the instrument locations]..
http://download.yousendit.com/662DD34D0B9506CC
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#204888 - 09/18/07 02:26 PM Re: My new keyboard set up
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Fran, what kind of stand is that? It looks pretty neat but is unfamiliar to me.

Secondly, (and I don't want to turn this into a hijack) I find that in my old age, it really tires out my arm playing the upper keyboard (I only play sitting). On most of todays keyboards, the display is usually positioned in such a way as to force you to have quite a bit of seperation between the first and second keyboards. This creates abnormal angles on the upper board as well as an unusual height guaranteed to make you arm-weary after a bit. That's one reason I got the C1 instead of two controllers and sound module or laptop. How do you combat this? Inquiring minds want to know.

chas
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#204889 - 09/18/07 02:30 PM Re: My new keyboard set up
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Very nice setup there, Fran.

It's amazing how we seem to travel in parallel equipment worlds. I'm looking at the 3000 myself because it would be a great board to carry to church or use for intimate settings. I was thinking of unloading the G70 if I got a 3000, but I've been learning a lot about the G's arranger section and am learning to live with the drawbar section's vibrato-chorus shortfalls.

Play us a tune; use both boards. Blow us away!
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#204890 - 09/18/07 02:56 PM Re: My new keyboard set up
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As important as the displays on BOTH arrangers are, do you find it a hassle to have to squint under the top keyboard to see what's going on on the G70? Plus, as chas says, having the manuals THAT far removed makes for a more tiring arm position, and makes for less accurate moves between keyboards.

If there's room at a gig, I might be tempted to put them in an "L' with the Yamaha on the right (or maybe on the left, it depends how you are using them). Are you triggering the Yamaha from the G70? Or vice versa? If so, 'L'-ing them up could make for a bit less arm-strain, and give you easy visual access to both...

But if you DO go 'vertical', lining up the 'C's (which this picture doesn't have them at) makes for more accurate jumps... (but I'm sure you already knew that)!
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#204891 - 09/18/07 03:06 PM Re: My new keyboard set up
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If you are going to use the Apex stand, I suggest using the larger support bars for the bottom board. This way you can pull the G70 - or whichever keyboard - out a few inches to minimize to screen blocking (which can be a problem).

Lining up the C's sounds like a good idea, but I've found that it's not really necessary. We seem to get accustomed to key placement easily and lining them up when they're so far apart doesn't do anything but satisfy the OCD in me.

Also, for anyone using this stand, put the keyboard you use/need less on the bottom, specifically because of that screen block and button problem.

hey Fran, let me know when you want to sell the 3000...
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#204892 - 09/18/07 03:20 PM Re: My new keyboard set up
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Chas, that is the Apex[Ultimate Support] Silver..and it has the super bars[long] and mic boom..
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#204893 - 09/18/07 04:14 PM Re: My new keyboard set up
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Looks pretty cool Fran...congratulations on your new setup.

Is that Dave's old 3k?

Ian

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#204894 - 09/18/07 05:08 PM Re: My new keyboard set up
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Fran:

Nice to see you mixing it up with both the Roland and the 3000. Never thought I'd see you using a 3000, but the set up looks good. But I do smell a rat!!! Blazing fast keys on the 3000 hmmm, what's up with that?

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#204895 - 09/18/07 05:16 PM Re: My new keyboard set up
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#204896 - 09/18/07 05:19 PM Re: My new keyboard set up
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Dave, did you sell or give Fran your old 3K?

Ian the Curious

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#204897 - 09/18/07 05:27 PM Re: My new keyboard set up
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I'd never thought I'd live to see this. Nice KB marriage. Fran, welcome to the world of Yamaha

Welcome to my world
Won't you come on in
Miracles I guess
Still happen now and then
Step into my heart
Leave your cares behind
Welcome to my world
Built with you in mind
Knock and the door will open
Seek and you will find
Ask and you'll be given
The key to this world of mine
I'll be waiting here
With my arms unfurled
Waiting just for you
Welcome to my world
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#204898 - 09/18/07 05:33 PM Re: My new keyboard set up
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[This message has been edited by Nigel (edited 09-19-2007).]
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#204899 - 09/18/07 05:34 PM Re: My new keyboard set up
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what the hell?? Fran Carango owns a PSR 3000???

when did this happen? lol
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#204900 - 09/18/07 06:09 PM Re: My new keyboard set up
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Fran, put a bracket at the beginning of the link - i think that will solve it - like I'm so smart, I've been doing this for all of two days.
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Wait a minute - what kind of "setup" is this? Fran, are you reeling us in? Could this really be Uncle Dave'ss 3k? Now, tell the truth If this is a hoax, it's a good one. If not, wow!

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#204901 - 09/18/07 06:20 PM Re: My new keyboard set up
Fran Carango Offline
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Cass, I did that right..That is an upload to a pic hosting site..It is a thumbnail for forums..
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#204902 - 09/18/07 06:30 PM Re: My new keyboard set up
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Oops, sorry!
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#204903 - 09/18/07 06:39 PM Re: My new keyboard set up
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Nah, Fran. I'm not falling for this one.

Taike
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#204904 - 09/18/07 06:51 PM Re: My new keyboard set up
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Quote:
Originally posted by Taike:
Nah, Fran. I'm not falling for this one.

Taike


You know what Taike?

You are right...this is just too weird.

I bet Fran borrowed Dave's 3k for the pic.

I'd say it's all just staged.

Ian
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#204905 - 09/18/07 06:52 PM Re: My new keyboard set up
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Quote:
Originally posted by Taike:
Nah, Fran. I'm not falling for this one.

Taike


Taike I think your on to something.

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#204906 - 09/18/07 07:15 PM Re: My new keyboard set up
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Quote:
Originally posted by ianmcnll:


I'd say it's all just staged.

Ian




Who cares? It's the singing we love .

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#204907 - 09/18/07 07:48 PM Re: My new keyboard set up
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Looks good, but I want to see more of the pics on the wall ...
t.
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#204908 - 09/18/07 07:51 PM Re: My new keyboard set up
Fran Carango Offline
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You guys do know I have owned many PSR's over the years..
PSR500
PSR620
PSR740
PSR2000
PSR2100
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#204909 - 09/18/07 08:06 PM Re: My new keyboard set up
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#204910 - 09/18/07 09:31 PM Re: My new keyboard set up
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the truth is Fran did buy a PSR 3000 and he has always secretly owned it...

but its only a minor solution for a few things that the G70 cannot support well which is Guitar sounds, Strings, mega electric / distorted guitars, ease of use, lightweight, portability, built in speakers, styles, on the fly editing / mixing etc etc... just to name a few

Nick
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#204911 - 09/19/07 08:32 AM Re: My new keyboard set up
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URL=http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0919071007kc5.jpg] [/URL]

It wasn't doing it for me..so I thought my grandaughter Gracie would like it...but she preferred her other toys, and gave it a thumbs down..
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#204912 - 09/19/07 08:35 AM Re: My new keyboard set up
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Now it is out on the curb all morning...the trash guy wouldn't even take it...
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#204913 - 09/19/07 08:40 AM Re: My new keyboard set up
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Quote:
Originally posted by Fran Carango:


Now it is out on the curb all morning...the trash guy wouldn't even take it...


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#204914 - 09/19/07 08:55 AM Re: My new keyboard set up
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Quote:
Originally posted by Fran Carango:


Now it is out on the curb all morning...the trash guy wouldn't even take it...





Ian



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#204915 - 09/19/07 08:59 AM Re: My new keyboard set up
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If you still have it on the street, I'll find someone to drive by and pick it up - for me.
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#204916 - 09/19/07 08:59 AM Re: My new keyboard set up
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oops, the dreaded double-post hits again!

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#204917 - 09/19/07 09:42 AM Re: My new keyboard set up
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I am just babysitting Dave's PSR3000..Donny borrowed it for a few days, and I am the transporter between them..
It gave me a chance to revisit the 3000 again..
Pretty much , I view it as a PSR2100 with powdered sugar sprinkled on it..more polyphony, a few more "cool". "live" sounds, and USB...other than that the same old..same old..
I have been there ..did that...with the PSR2100..

I can honestly see how folks are excited with the 3k...and why they think it is much bang for the buck...but....if you own any top model arranger[even a Tyros2], and especially if you have them side by side...there is no comparison..you get what you pay for...

Dave will be picking up his 3k and shipping it out to it's new home..I am sure another very happy home..
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