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#205669 - 11/02/03 07:06 PM Reading an audience...
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
I'm always amazed at the number of performers who cannot, or will not, take the time to analyze their audiences. This, obviously should be done before playing that first note or hittin the start button, but there are times when that analysis just comes out wrong. Last night's job was a classic example.

This one was for a yacht club's installation of officers. During the cocktail hour they wanted background music, which is quite boring, but easy to play. Just light, styles, a little piano playing, maybe throw in a sax solo or a flute, but nothing glaring. So far, so good.

Then came the dinner, which they also wanted background music. Dinner lasted just over an hour, which made the night seem endless. After that there was the installation of officers, which ate up another 45 minutes. During this time I sat at the bar and drank ice water with a twist of lemon.

Finally, after all the regalia, it was time for the dance segment, which gave me just one hour remaining at the job. Keep in mind that these were folks with lots of money, most dressed in a tux or suit, the ladies wore gowns and the gal at the cash bar was gettin' rich on the tip jar. Tried a couple upbeat 50s songs for the crowd of 65 to 75 year-olds, but no one budged. Saw a little foot tapping, but no one headed for the miniscule dance floor. At this point I figured I had switch gears until I found the magic song that would fill the dance floor. Who would have ever figured it that this was a country music crowd--not me, that's for sure. Did that first Jim Reeves number and the floor immediately filled to capacity. Kept it up for the next hour, then graciously bowed out with Show Me The Way To Go Home, which again filled the floor.

The bottom line here is there are no hard, fast rules when it comes to reading a crowd. The golden rule, at least when it comes to performing, is to play what the customer wants to hear--not what you want to play. If anyone has any tips as to figuring out what an audience wants, especially on a job where you don't know any of the folks that hired you, I would sure like to see them posted.

Almost forgot. When the treasurer handed me the check at the end of the night, he said "We're opening a new marina across the creek in April, and we sure would like to have you as a regular for our Friday evening get togethers--you're the best performer we've had in years. Ironically, on the check's memo line it said "DJ Services." Ya just never know!

Cheers,

Gary
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#205670 - 11/02/03 09:08 PM Re: Reading an audience...
bruno123 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 4912
Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
Gary, great topic---reading a audience

First of all, I am my own worst problem.
If they are not dancing, it's my fault. Hmm!
I was called to play a 4 hour job at the elks club. This was the earlie eighties. I had a four piece band. The first hour no one danced. The second hour I tried playing older songs, then newer songs, no one danced The third hour still no one danced. My pants were on corectly, my shoes were tied, I tried adjusting the tone and volume controls. There were enough of the young people there. Was I distroying the contemp music?

The last hour some of the younger people got up to dance---hold on now---they danced using a box step--a very lage awkward box step. I looked toward bar, no one was drinking. I later found that they were a religious group for Pennsylvina who did not drink, and very rarly danced. ouch.

It's always nice when people come in, ready for a party. They have a good time, and I have a great time---then they pay me--how good does it get. It is really not work. Many times after a job, I go home, unpack my instrument and play till I get tired---till I wind down.

There is a group, who's main purpose is to have a social. They want to talk with soft music in the background. Toward the end they get up all at once, as if some one blew a whistle, and they dance. They get right into dancing and have a good time. 45 to 50 minutes later, they stop in the same way they started, suddenly.
I love playing my instrument, sooooo, I play all the songs I have touched for a while during this soft music period. I play them in different rhythms, change tempos--just enjoy. But, I am always ready to turn on to the crowd as soon as they are ready to dance.

I have been blessed. I am playing since I was 23. I have supported a family of six, 49 years later I am still getting calls to play. Please, in no way am I exalting myself, but I am paid enough money this New Years Eve to pay my houses taxes for the year. No this is not about money. it's about being thankful for what I have been given.
I love music, I thought I would have to leave this business when I approached 60.
Thank you lord.
Sorry if I my post is to long--you know, memories.

Have a special day, John C.

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#205671 - 11/02/03 10:20 PM Re: Reading an audience...
Scott Langholff Online   content
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Registered: 06/09/02
Posts: 3163
Loc: Pensacola, Florida, USA
Hello

John: I wonder if we played at the same elks club. Maybe my crowd was from Pennsylania too.

Scott

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#205672 - 11/03/03 03:40 AM Re: Reading an audience...
Bernie9 Offline
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Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5520
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
I have the same problem of trying to read the audience and tend to blame myself if there isn't much reaction.In this instance, I am talking about playing weekly at the Elks for the bar patrons. To my surprise,people compliment me on my music eventhough I wasn't sure they were paying any attention,much less enjoying it.
I guess I should remember that I am contributing to the social atmosphere and it isn't all about me. After 40 years,you would think I would know that.

Thanks for the post. I think it is a good thread.
Best Regards
Bernie
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#205673 - 11/03/03 04:22 AM Re: Reading an audience...
bruno123 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 4912
Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
When writing a contract for a playing job I ask the following questions.
1-How many people will be attending?
2-What will be the major ethnic groups?
3-Are there any favorite songs?
4-Are there any anouncements you wish me to make?
I tell them that it is sometimes difficult to judge the volume of my instruments, so please let me know. I do let them know that I am good at reading the audience, and konwing what to play, and when.

I want them to know that I will be in charge. Most times when I have allow them to lead the job, it fails, it goes poorly.

I have had the person who hired me give me a step by step, hour to hour written schedule they wanted me to follow. I agree, but unless there is something special, I nornally will not follow a schedule, it is the audience, and the dancers that create my schedule.

This may sound like a no,no, but when I see that the song or type of dance is not going over to well, I will make start a new song and beat, even if I am in the middle of a song.

Well, it's always nice talking about myself. it brings back many nice memories.It would be nice to read more about, how you do it, how do you run your job.

John C.

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#205674 - 11/03/03 07:20 AM Re: Reading an audience...
btweengigs Offline
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Registered: 09/09/02
Posts: 2204
Loc: Florida, USA
Unless you are Elton John, Vic Damone, Willy Nelson, P.Diddy Doodly Daddy or some other well known whose talent for a specific type of music or entertainment is well known, we have to be chameleons ready to change colors (programming) as needed.

It's a nice ego booster when folks tell you they came to see and hear you...but many times they are there for any number of other reasons and we are just the entertainment du jour. Some of those situations are b-o-r-i-n-g, true. But, the checks still clear.

Elks, VFWs, Moose, Eagles, Country Clubs, Yacht Clubs, private house parties, retirements, birthdays, anniversaries (a biggie here in Fla.) restaurants/lounges, assisted living and nursing facilities...these are the bread and butter jobs for me. The fun jobs are the casual lounge situations...but I don't turn down anything as long as it is a 50+ audience.

Eddie



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#205675 - 11/03/03 02:30 PM Re: Reading an audience...
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
When your audience leaves after your first set, you should get a read on your audience..
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#205676 - 11/03/03 03:20 PM Re: Reading an audience...
Bluezplayer Offline
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Registered: 11/10/00
Posts: 2195
Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
Hmm, if they ask you to leave after your first set is over.. that's probably an easy read too..



AJ


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#205677 - 11/03/03 05:37 PM Re: Reading an audience...
brickboo Offline
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Registered: 02/04/01
Posts: 2071
Loc: Fruita, Colorado, USA
Don Mason will satisfy the most people in the USA the most times. Why? Because he does tons of country which is the most popular music in the USA.

In 1958 when Fats Domino was as big as you could get and Ray charles was coming up and even Elvis and Buddy Holly, Ike and Tina and the list friends goes on and on, I argured with a guy that R&R and R&B was the most popular music. What a laugh!

I'll bet all the money I can afford that just like where I live now and even in New Orleans which is supposed to be a Dixie Jazz town and in your town USA also that there are 2 or 3 country music stations to every other type of music station locally on the radio. Wanna bet? There may be one, may be two possibly three cities that are an exception, but I doubt it.

Country music rules in the USA. It always has and probably always will. If you want to play a lot and be popular, do country. There's a guy in town who sings very good plays a little more guitar than I do, ( I don't play guitar at all). He uses midi files and is very popular. The farthest he gets away from country is the tune "From A Jack To A King".

I'm doing the music I enjoy the most. I won't make much money. I do maybe 30 country tunes. May be I should be doing more!

Country is king. It's a fact. Oh, I know Uncle Dave's crowd really likes what he does and Donny's crowd also likes what he does and that goes for Fran, Scott and others, but all of your crowds put together are in the minority. Country fans are the largest group in the USA. It ain't even close.
If you don't know the folks, start the night with two or three country tunes you're sure to please most of the people.

Even if they're under 30. My son and his friends are 24-28 years of age. They buy country CDs.

I just enjoy the standards more. Plenty of passing chords and a beautiful melody and or a swinging rhythm with plenty of improvisation. I know I'm not going to make a lot of money. I just wish I could play more. But I really know that won't happen either. Woe is me. I need to get out of this one horse town. That would help.

It's really nice expressing an opinion and not getting anyone mad isn't it? What a great bunch of guys here. I'm gonna visit DonM again one day and I'm only going to play on the country tunes. I'm gonna make him do them in E,A and D. It's gonna be very hard for me, but I'll get even on the last tune. I'll do "Body And Soul" in Db and I'm not going to let him use the Transpose button. Ha! Ha!

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#205678 - 11/03/03 05:50 PM Re: Reading an audience...
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
Gotta' agree with Boo on this one--country rules, even with the rich folks at the yacht clubs. Swingin' Doors, A Jukebox And A Barstool has been my opener for a couple years, and Don Mason uses it as well. Ironically, I have a friend in the northwest just outside Spokane, Washington who says he uses it as well, and country is king there too. That's about as far from the sunny south as you can get without crossing the Canadian border, but they sure like country music.

Who woulda' figgured,

Gary
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