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#206252 - 10/24/07 07:38 AM Re: Cassp hows the Roland CM30 so far?
Dnj Offline
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Another - does this mean we've found a substitute for the Logitech's?


In soooooo many ways! Cass your a smart cookie

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#206253 - 10/24/07 07:42 AM Re: Cassp hows the Roland CM30 so far?
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What is the advantage of using the "Stereo Link" over using R+L cables from a mixer or KB ? You have less inputs at your disposal using the link, not that it matters.
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#206254 - 10/24/07 07:51 AM Re: Cassp hows the Roland CM30 so far?
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Bernie check out page #10 it will shed some light on this stereo link hookup ....
http://media.rolandus.com/manuals/CM-30_OM.pdf

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#206255 - 10/24/07 08:13 AM Re: Cassp hows the Roland CM30 so far?
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Hypothetically, you could save one cable if you would input the right side of an instrument to one CM-30 and the left side to another. This would also give you two tone controls.

BUT WHY?

Setting up a CM-30 should be easy. If it gets that complicated, maybe you should consider something else. Don't forget, the "stereo link" is also a "mono" link for mono sources like mics - it's no different than a line out to connect two amps. And again, the stereo effect is really best for keyboard sounds that are meant to be heard in stereo.

This is my first experience with using stereo onstage; I'm only using it because it's available; and it sounds good.
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#206256 - 10/24/07 08:24 AM Re: Cassp hows the Roland CM30 so far?
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After re-reading Bernie's post, I think he has something there.

Yes, if you are using a stereo mixer you could make things easier by just running right and left. But then the question of inputs becomes moot, as you are using the mixer for all your inputs. the CM-30 allows you to use ALL the inputs on both amps and have them linked together, technically eliminating the need for an additional mixer. As Donny said, the description on pg. 10 of the manual explains that. I think it takes a little "thinking it thru" to absorb their simplified explanation.

As per my previous post, if you get to the point where you are using up the inputs, I would hope you have devised a plan to bundle your cords, especially if you've got the CM-30s up on mic stands.
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#206257 - 10/24/07 08:44 AM Re: Cassp hows the Roland CM30 so far?
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And if Mic stands are used with the CM30's ...I'd recomend TRIPOD style heavy duty quality stands!

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#206258 - 10/24/07 09:46 AM Re: Cassp hows the Roland CM30 so far?
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Donny, do they sound as good as the Logitechs?
Think I'll go demo a couple this afternoon. There is an online retailer near where I work and they have them in stock.
Thanks,
DonM
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#206259 - 10/24/07 01:38 PM Re: Cassp hows the Roland CM30 so far?
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Don.....yes they sound great ...but please reread all Ive said about them & notice how many times I used the word "SMALL"

BTW I never liked te Z2200 sound and awefull setup, boominess of the sub, Missing Midrange, plugs & thin wires after all its a home PC speaker system.
Had fun & I dumped it quick.

[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 10-24-2007).]

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#206260 - 10/24/07 02:44 PM Re: Cassp hows the Roland CM30 so far?
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I just got back from my Wed gig using the PA800 and Z2200. This are three of us playing and singing. The other two are just singing with a Karaoke machine hooked up to my Mackie mixer, and out the Z2200. I play instrumentals with styles, and some SMF files for singing.

The point being that all kinds of music went into the Z2200. Whereas, I have always been a defender of the Logitech, it was a good time for an objective appraisal. The highs and vocals were quite good,but I thought it was missing some midrange. Some of the bass from karaoke disks exihibited open boominess that I couldn't get out with cutting bass and EQing the mixer. It could have been the disk.

Since I don't need a driving bass, I am hoping the CM-30's will be adequate. This is a 30x20 room with about 40 people. I will get my CM-30's Friday. Luckily, I have many equipment options, and if they aren't an imptovement, I will use them in my studio, or as monitors.
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#206261 - 10/24/07 08:18 PM Re: Cassp hows the Roland CM30 so far?
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Since I don't need a driving bass, I am hoping the CM-30's will be adequate. This is a 30x20 room with about 40 people. I will get my CM-30's Friday. .


Bernie they should cover that room very effectively....good luck & enjoy!

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