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#206242 - 10/22/07 05:13 PM Re: Cassp hows the Roland CM30 so far?
ianmcnll Offline
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If the Roland CM-30s work well, they would be a far better deal.

The MS60s which have been discontinued and replaced by the MSR100...they were very expensive as are the latter.

I got them at a great price because I was working for Yamaha.

Do Roland make a 60 watt CM...a CM-60? That would be cool!

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#206243 - 10/22/07 06:27 PM Re: Cassp hows the Roland CM30 so far?
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Roland makes the AC-60 and AC-90 acoustic guitar/pa amps. They are stereo and have 2 x 6.5" speakers and EFX, but have less channels, are heavier and much more expensive. I'm somewhat surprised the CM-30's have sparked interest here. I wasn't interested until I ran into a returned-order pair at half price. They don't seem to be big sellers or on display at many places. Where do you find them; near the guitars or the sound room or the keyboard room? The guys at GC were not up to speed on them and were as surprised as I was about their power and features.

I'm sure if the CM-30 became a hit, Roland would consider a second generation step up. So, would we be looking at an 8 or 10" speaker and 60-100 watts? Seems doable, but the price goes to $350 and the weight to over 25 lbs. There are a lot of powered speakers out there to compete with THAT.

The CM-30 is a nice, compact unit. It's a great little amp that can be used as a mini-pa or stage monitor. I had a Boss MA-15 years back that was a wedge with a 5" speaker & 15 watts. For its time it was a great little portable thingy that I could use for monitoring (like a powered hot spot) or amping in tight spots. This is a few steps forward in the mini market.
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#206244 - 10/22/07 07:23 PM Re: Cassp hows the Roland CM30 so far?
Dnj Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by ianmcnll:
Do Roland make a 60 watt CM...a CM-60? That would be cool!

Ian



No Ian.....I dont think so, the next step is Rolands KC amp line........the CM30 is more then enough for the right small venues.
http://www.rolandus.com/products/productlist.aspx?ParentId=33

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#206245 - 10/23/07 03:36 AM Re: Cassp hows the Roland CM30 so far?
Dnj Offline
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#206246 - 10/23/07 06:07 AM Re: Cassp hows the Roland CM30 so far?
Fran Carango Offline
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Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
I strongly feel stereo sounds better in 90% of the venues..
The lone exception is an audience within 180 degrees of the speakers[a hard right and left of speakers]..

True from a long distance the stereo image is greatly reduced...so what, why sacrifice the stereo in the range that will sound great..People that sit in the back of the room, will hear mono...others will hear stereo..

Some instruments that always seem to sound better in stereo[even in the back of the room]..are drums..fills and crash cymbals seem to be more live..Also separation of individual instruments like a guitar on one side , and a sax to the other side..add dimension..

As I mentioned there are 10 percent of the rooms that mono is more suitable......and my winter gig is one of those..
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#206247 - 10/23/07 06:54 AM Re: Cassp hows the Roland CM30 so far?
cassp Offline
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I've never felt that stereo was necessary playing live. But today's arrangers often have sampled sounds that are optimized in stereo, especially their premier grand pianos. So, if I can get a little better fidelity using stereo, I'm not complaining.

Donny, thanks for the review links. They certainly reinforce what we have been saying here.
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#206248 - 10/23/07 12:45 PM Re: Cassp hows the Roland CM30 so far?
Dnj Offline
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Cassp.....
I took your advice, today after a great breakfast with Fran we headed out music store shopping & I couldn't resist buying another Roland CM30 its was the Last one they had a like new Demo Floor model so I got a nice deal on it also !!

Small, Lightweight,
Great STEREO Sound with (2),

ROLAND CM30 Yeah!

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#206249 - 10/24/07 03:34 AM Re: Cassp hows the Roland CM30 so far?
Bernie9 Offline
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After reading the rewiews, I ordered two CM-30's for my small gigs. I could bring my Bose, but since the PA800 has so many stereo styles, I am going to see how stereo works for a change.

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#206250 - 10/24/07 05:35 AM Re: Cassp hows the Roland CM30 so far?
Dnj Offline
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Bernie.....congrats,

should work out well for your SMALL jobs for sure enjoy!
Also try using the STEREO LINK to hook up both!

Example 1
You can connect up to five input sources.
fig.08
Operation
1.
Connect the devices to the L CM-30.
2.
Connect the STEREO LINK OUT R jack on
the L CM-30 and the STEREO LINK IN jack
on the R CM-30.
3.
Turn on both L and R CM-30.
4.
Adjust the volume levels on all devices.
5.
Adjust the R and L CM-30 volume levels
separately using their MASTER knobs.
If you want to connect input sources to the R CM-30
As described in step 1 of example 1, connect the R
side’s STEREO LINK OUT L jack to the L side’s
STEREO LINK IN jack.



[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 10-24-2007).]

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#206251 - 10/24/07 07:24 AM Re: Cassp hows the Roland CM30 so far?
cassp Offline
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Loc: Motown
Just a humorous musing - if you were to run everything stereo and use inputs on both amps, you'd have more wire than speaker. Think about it.

Another - does this mean we've found a substitute for the Logitech's?
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