no problem.
S.

Beautiful played!

Would like to ask you guys a question:
How would you estimate the quality of this
piano sound compared to the Tyros-2 ?

It's from the current Casio WK-3200 (retail price $399).

-Sun

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Can't believe I'm saying this but I actually prefer the Casio piano sound. I've been an acoustic piano player most of my life, so it is the sound I use the most on my keyboards.

I'm just tired of the Yamaha piano I think.... Interestingly, one of my good friends just bought a Clavinova and the piano sample in there sounds much better to my ears, compared with the 3000/tyros piano.

Carrie

Carrie,

being not a very experienced player, I didn't dare to say, but my opinion is quite the same like yours...

Lookin forward to purchase this Casio "toy"

Sun

[This message has been edited by sunfactor (edited 10-31-2005).]

Sorry, I was wrong.

Actually the retail price is - $299

I do not like this Casio sound but I am not satisfied with the Tyros2 sound. Yamaha arranger piano sound are thin (plastic sounding). Hopefully when we all have HD inside and 1Gb in ram Yamaha will try to sell us better(thicker) piano sound

Very good, are you sure you have the price correct.
Compared to the heavyweight keyboards, it doesn’t have the depth of sound that larger samples can give, but even for a more expensive price then you mention it is still a lovely sound.
You might also like to go over to SPVWorld http://svpworld.com/tyrospiano.htm were you can download some Midi files, and then submit some Mp3 recordings to be incorporated on the Piano comparison there.

Bill

This is just my opinion, of course, but I've found that the very best (as in "full", "thick", etc.) piano sounds are not usually the ones that sound best in a mix or arrangement. They tend to require more "headroom" in the mix bus (ie. higher bit count) or they will start to sound "muddy". For solo piano, I tend to use the Motif ES or Triton w/Piano board. Neither is a standout but are probably better than what you'll get in the average arranger kb. Although nice to have, I can't imagine anyone choosing a 61 key arranger keyboard for a solo piano presentation; midi file playback of a piano performance maybe, but there are cheaper ways of doing that. I'm just saying that of all the voices on an ARRANGER keyboard, solo piano is the one least likely to be a deal-breaker for me. What is more important, to ME, is how well they blend with the other voices in the average arrangement. The piano voices on my G1000 are lousy (IMO) but sound just fine when used with most of the styles or in midi playback, especially with SMF. Bottom line, if you're playing out, no one is going to know the difference; if you're in the studio, you should be using something like GigaSamples or better yet, a real piano.

chas

I have a Clavinova CLP170 as well as the T2, so I will be posting some additions to the piano shootout on svpworld very shortly. The CLP170 is the closest I've heard to a real grand piano, although much depends as I have found on the speaker and amplification. The CLP170 recreates this well, but record the CLP and then listen through the tyros speakers and theres a big difference! Also I agree with the last post, in a mix the CLP170 can sound overpowering and unbalanced whilst the purer and thinner keyboard pianos do better. For solo performances the CLP wins me hands down anyday, but for styles and backings I would go with the tyros pianos.
I do find the live pianos a bit muddy on the T2, but with some voice editing and eq you can achieve a much cleaner and better defined sound for performance. The samples themselves are good enough, just try tweaking the voice settings. The sampling features of the T2 though are good enough to enable the loading of new pianos in future, though I dont suppose we will ever see the harmonic sampling and key release effects of the clavinova.

Simon



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Bill,

it seems to be no problem to get this item for $299:
http://ign.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=9352124/

Thanks for the link. When I get the WK-3200 I'll submit the recording.

Sun




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