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#208413 - 11/03/03 02:43 PM Style compatability Tyros/PRO
Uncle Dave Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
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Hmmmm..... more to ponder:
The factory style disk from the PRO will not play in the Ty, and the styles I save from the TY won't load in the PRO.
I expected the megavoices to be absent, but I thought the drums would play at least.
Hmmm...... Don't tell me I have to actually read the Manual !!!!!! Grrrrrrr

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#208414 - 11/03/03 03:34 PM Re: Style compatability Tyros/PRO
dlstarry Offline
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Dave, the styles from the Ty will load in the
Pro, you have to
remove the OTS & the Database stuff.
You can use a program made by Michael P Bedesem called
Style Fix, it works great & you can run a hole batch thru in no time.

You can get the program free at SVPworld here is a link. http://www.svpworld.com/psr_software.htm
If the link don't work let me know & I will
Email you.
Let me know !!!!!!!
You can use the same program to get the PSR 2000 / 2100 styles
to load in the Pro.
Denny
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#208415 - 11/03/03 04:58 PM Re: Style compatability Tyros/PRO
Eric, B Offline
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Uncle Dave,

The Pro styles end with .sty
The Tyros styles end with .ty
All you have to do is change the ending on the computer.

Eric
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#208416 - 11/03/03 05:17 PM Re: Style compatability Tyros/PRO
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Quote:
Originally posted by Eric, B:
The Pro styles end with .sty
The Tyros styles end with .ty


Eric, that's a NEW one on me. Ty may be the nick for Tyros, but both Tyros & 9000pro styles end with .sty

Scott
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#208417 - 11/03/03 05:33 PM Re: Style compatability Tyros/PRO
Frank L. Rosenthal Offline
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I have done some recent conversions of Tyros styles and found all kinds of style name endings as follows:

.prs
.bcs
.sst
.pst
.sty

Usually you would need to remove the OTS parts from PSR 2100, PSR 2000 & Tyros styles for them to work properly on the 9000 Pro or earlier versions of PSRs. In addition, you would need to rename the style to the .sty extension.


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#208418 - 11/03/03 08:20 PM Re: Style compatability Tyros/PRO
Eric, B Offline
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Hi Scott,

I wrote the reply from work, so I couldn't check it out on my computer.

When I get styles from Germany, they are for the 9000, 9000Pro and the Tyros.

The Tyros styles have the ending ty.sty
The others just .sty

Hope this helps

Eric
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#208419 - 11/03/03 11:57 PM Re: Style compatability Tyros/PRO
Jørgen Sørensen Offline
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Registered: 10/24/99
Posts: 361
Loc: Denmark
Hi

Get my No OTS program from http://home7.inet.tele.dk/js/noots/index.htm
to remove OTS and to save with .sty extension.

Jørgen
The Unofficial YAMAHA PSR Resource Site [url=athttp://home7.inet.tele.dk/js/musik/740pages][url=athttp://home7.inet.tele.dk/js/musik/740pages][url=athttp://home7.inet.tele.dk/js/musik/740pages]athttp://home7.inet.tele.dk/js/musik/740pages[/url][/url][/url]

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#208420 - 11/04/03 12:13 AM Re: Style compatability Tyros/PRO
Graham UK Offline
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UD. I have all the Styles from Tyros,2000 & 2100 &CVP209. As already been mentioned,with the simple deletion of the OTS and the extensions re-named to .sty. All the Styles load & work fully on my 9000PRO.

Graham UK

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#208421 - 11/04/03 12:47 AM Re: Style compatability Tyros/PRO
Uncle Dave Offline
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Great help all ...... as usual. thanx guys !
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#208422 - 11/04/03 04:11 AM Re: Style compatability Tyros/PRO
Tony W Offline
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Registered: 12/04/99
Posts: 836
Loc: Lancaster UK
Graham

Do you find the Tyros, 2000/2100 and 209 styles play well on the pro after conversion? I have downloaded certainly some of the Ty styles and found them to be awful (maybe it was just the files I found?) I think out of a fairly substantial d/l I ended up witj about three useable styles.

I have never found 2000 or 209 styles to try but assumed they were the same as the Ty anyway. Did you have to tweak the styles yourself to get a decent sound? If so did you do this via the pro or use a software prog to do it? I have not had much success with software progs ..... even removing OTS is a VERY hit and miss affair (at least for me which probably says it all )

Sorry for all the questions
All the best
Tony

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#208423 - 11/04/03 04:55 AM Re: Style compatability Tyros/PRO
Graham UK Offline
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Tony W. We are talking about genuine Yamaha Styles here, not other board conversions which to my mind apart from a selected few are very poor conversions.
All the Yamaha Tyros 2k 21k 209 styles (some new styles between them) I use Michael midiplayer from www.svpworld.com
Just loading a style, select your keyboard (9000) and select PANEL VOICES. Then just save out, it will auto deletes the OTS's and selects the appropriate panel voice. All the styles work to a very high quality without any tweaking. The only exception is the odd Tyros Style that uses the Mega voices. These can also be changed within Midiplayer program. Imported Styles usually have to be increased in volume in the 9000pro mixing panel.accompaniment default is 82. I increase this to 92. The styles can also be increased in volume permanently within Midiplayer program. Hope this is of help to you.

Graham UK



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#208424 - 11/04/03 09:37 AM Re: Style compatability Tyros/PRO
Tony W Offline
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Registered: 12/04/99
Posts: 836
Loc: Lancaster UK
Hi Graham,
Thanks for your reply. I too was talking about Yamaha styles and not other board conversions as I agree there are very few decent ones of those about.

I have used Michael's midiplayer program but after your desciption above I think I have been getting the process wrong!! I did get it to remove the OTS settings but did not select panel voices.

The result was that some will play after a fashion but are not useable and others will juat not load into the Pro at all.....It looks like they are loading from the floppy but when you start the style the previous used style still plays.

I will give your method a shot later tonight and keep my fingers crossed Thanks so much for the advice
Best to you
Tony

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#208425 - 11/04/03 09:51 AM Re: Style compatability Tyros/PRO
dlstarry Offline
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Registered: 02/04/01
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Loc: MN. U.S.A.
Hi: Graham
I also have used Michael's Midiplayer to delete the OTS & change the voice's, But
I found that after changing the styles with midiplayer that some of them still
wouldn't load in the Pro, & when I run them thru Style Fix they load fine.
So I have been using Style Fix & have not found one that would not load, yet.
Denny
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#208426 - 11/04/03 11:31 AM Re: Style compatability Tyros/PRO
Graham UK Offline
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Loc: Lincolnshire UK
Tony W. As distarry has found for him StyleFix to be more reliable at removing the OTS, but I have always used successfully Midiplayer because it has other options apart from deleting the OTS. No reason not to use both as the process is very quick.

OTS appears to be the reason a new style from floppy won't load, but the board still plays the previous loaded style.

Graham UK

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