Hello Uncle Dave,

1)sounds - slight edge to PSR ? really have they change the synth engine in 9000 Pro from 9000 that much(which I have played) and the sounds were good but comparing them to Triton sounds is questionable? well that is just my opinion, I played i30 with 9000 and they sounded almost in the same league but PA-80 uses Triton sounds which in my humble opinion are way ahead than PSR or i30! but I can be wrong and it is purely my opinion and those who are interested in hearing the new Motif just go to http://www.motifator.com/ and click on the listening room and also check out the demos from www.korgpa80.com, well what can I say, and please I am only talking about sounds here not feature wise (we also have to consider a $1000 difference)


[This message has been edited by Arbaz (edited 07-04-2001).]

The PA80 is NOT a Triton. It is "based" on the Triton engine, and does not have the same impact to my ears. Also...The Triton never lit my fire anyway. The "slight edge" I refer to is the piano sound, mostly, and the electric pianos too. The PA80 is a wonderful machine. If it was the same size as the Yamaha, and the same price - no one would buy it.

First of all I know that PA-80 is based on the Triton engine and it does contain all the samples from triton and some new solo samples but I do also know that in PA-80 you can have 4 OSC per program even the Triton only offers 2 I think you are referring to effect settings which are better in Triton now other than sounds I mostly read specifications of a keyboard Yamaha have wonderful polyphony (128 notes) user interface is easy (as I have heard) and it offers sampling these features are a plus for 9000pro and it does cost $1200 more? what I do not understand is your last comment "If it was the same size as the Yamaha, and the same price - no one would buy it." what exactly does it mean? that people pay more for yamaha or yamaha is expensive so it is suppose to be the best out there??? please do clarify it for me, well I just want to get different opinions and no flames also Uncle Dave just for your interest PA-80 have released the new O.S. 2.0.1 the feature which is nice is,

-When the Manual Bass is selected if you press the Upper Chord Scanning you can play the Manual Bass with the left hand and the Automatic Chord with the Right hand.

there are few other features not listed here, I mentioned this one cause I remember reading your post about playing manual bass!


[This message has been edited by Arbaz (edited 07-04-2001).]

What I mean is that if the Yamaha and the Korg were the same price and weight - no one would pick the PA80 over the PSR9000. The advantages become obvious because of the overall value and portability, but the features on the Yammy put it ahead of the Korg in most other areas. Subjective? Of course. My needs have YET to be met, so - I'm still looking. Good luck in your search.

Thank you Uncle Dave I understand so if Pa-80 offered 128 polyphony, user sampling you would have gone for PA-80 ? Just kidding I do understand what you mean. Thanks again. :-)

I'm the other half of the equation--I traded the 9000 for the PA80. SO FAR, I much prefer the guitar sounds on the 9000, and of course the ease of operation. The weight was a big reason I changed. I love the harmonica on the PA. The saxes are good, the brass is good. No complaints other than I'm still tweaking guitars looking for something that approaches the LiveE guitar on the 9000.
The harmonizer on the 9000 is MUCH better.
I am enjoying the joystick on the PA80 a lot more than I thought I would. The sequence players are better on the PA--and it recognizes .kar files. The 9000 includes video output, which is an option on the PA. Sampler not available on the PA.
Like Dave says, it all depends on your needs!
DonM

Hello DonM, like some one have said that sound is a very subjective matter in fact it proves right here you don't like the PA-80 guitar and I think PA-80's nylon guitar is very good http://www.korgpa80.com/pa80/mp3/nylongtr.mp3 and off course I have heard the carlos guitar demo of Yamaha! :-) about the sampler I think PA-80 will soon have a limited sample play back feature! using the flash card !

I like the acoustic guitars, nylon guitar, Club guitar, Jazz guitar etc, a lot. It's just a certain string-popping country electric guitar that I loved on the PSR9000. I have found some very usable substitutes, but not exactly what I would like. Like UD says, we don't all look for the same thing. For example I love the harmonizer on the 9000 but it doesn't do Dave's particular thing.
I look forward to upgrades for the PA80. It will get better and better.
DonM

This discussion is comparing two keyboards that I like very much. It's not about which is good, or which is bad. Neither is bad - far from it. I only rated the differences that matter to me so you can make your own comparisons, based on informed opinions from users. I doubt that I will ever be totally happy with anything. I also doubt that it will affect my overall work attitude or acceptance level. My clients are getting used to asking me..."What did you bring tonite?" They don't care WHAT I play, as long as I PLAY it. Wonder who will be the first to make me reeeeeealy happy again. Maybe the PSR2000 and my digitech. Who knows.

UD Probably Casio!! ha,ha!


[This message has been edited by Nobby (edited 07-05-2001).]