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#210338 - 07/30/07 02:48 PM Williams Encore Digital Piano--Anyone play/own it??
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Folks, anyone here have the chance to play on of these digital pianos? It's by Williams. I'm all set to buy the new Yamaha NP-30, but this unit is only $100 more, and offers more "controller options", plus 88 weighted keys compared to the NP-30's 76 semi-weighted.

This model I'm looking at is called the Williams Encore. It looks just like a Suzuki model. Anyone know much about these? Here's a link to it: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Williams-Encore-88-Key-Digital-Piano?sku=700311
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#210339 - 07/30/07 02:52 PM Re: Williams Encore Digital Piano--Anyone play/own it??
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Squeak, bad track record[Guitar Center line]..cheap but not quality
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#210340 - 07/30/07 02:54 PM Re: Williams Encore Digital Piano--Anyone play/own it??
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look closer at the Casio line..
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#210341 - 07/30/07 02:57 PM Re: Williams Encore Digital Piano--Anyone play/own it??
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Squeak, have you tried the NP-30? I'm curious to know what you think of it...I haven't had a chance to play one yet.

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#210342 - 07/30/07 03:03 PM Re: Williams Encore Digital Piano--Anyone play/own it??
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Haven't tried it yet. I'm all set to buy the NP-30, and at $299 it's a steal. However, the Williams Encore offers much more for just $100 more than the NP-30.

I wouldn't be using the Williams for gigs, it would simply be used as "bang on digital" but more importantly it would be used as a midi controller to a new Roland SonicCell. I figured at $399.., having 88 weighted keys, and pitch and mod wheels.., (those two options are well worth the extra $100 when compared to the NP-30)
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#210343 - 07/30/07 03:10 PM Re: Williams Encore Digital Piano--Anyone play/own it??
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I must agree...but do you know the track record of the Williams?

First I've heard of them.

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#210344 - 07/30/07 03:21 PM Re: Williams Encore Digital Piano--Anyone play/own it??
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Williams is made for Guitar Center by a company called Kaysound. Kaysound also makes the adagio piano line, as well as the cme controllers...
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#210345 - 07/30/07 03:26 PM Re: Williams Encore Digital Piano--Anyone play/own it??
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Does Kaysound make these instruments, or are they just a distributor?

Ian
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#210346 - 07/30/07 10:56 PM Re: Williams Encore Digital Piano--Anyone play/own it??
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It would be nice to try this model out..... I'm confident the Yamaha NP-30 will be a great value, and their track record is well established, but this Williams model is interesting. I swear this encore model has the exact same body as a Suzuki model. I wonder if it's really just a Suzuki under a different name.. hmmmmmmm?
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#210347 - 07/30/07 11:21 PM Re: Williams Encore Digital Piano--Anyone play/own it??
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HA!!! I knew I wasn't crazy....... The Williams model has the EXACT same body as the Suzuki SS-90/SS-100. Now the question is are the guts the same........?
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#210348 - 07/31/07 07:35 AM Re: Williams Encore Digital Piano--Anyone play/own it??
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Squeak

This is the worst quality on in the marketplace, in my opinion.

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#210349 - 07/31/07 08:20 AM Re: Williams Encore Digital Piano--Anyone play/own it??
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That's why I'm asking questions about this particular Williams model. Lately it seems that there are knockoffs surfacing. Music123 had the KeyTech line that had the same body from the PSR-2000.

After seeing this model I was curious if Williams bought out something from Suzuki. It just must be the shell that's the same because the Williams model has 32 note poly, and the Suzuki model has 64 note poly.

[This message has been edited by squeak_D (edited 07-31-2007).]
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#210350 - 07/31/07 08:28 AM Re: Williams Encore Digital Piano--Anyone play/own it??
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Here's the link to the Suzuki piano that's exactly like the Williams Encore model. http://www.suzukimusic.co.uk/piano/html/SS90.htm
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#210351 - 07/31/07 09:07 PM Re: Williams Encore Digital Piano--Anyone play/own it??
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Believe me,

I know EVERYTHING about Suzuki products and I advise to stay clear..........
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#210352 - 08/01/07 08:28 AM Re: Williams Encore Digital Piano--Anyone play/own it??
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I guess I'll stick with buying the Yamaha NP-30. I too have played on many Suzuki's. Their keyboards just down right suck (end of story there). Their digital grands are pretty nice. Sounds aren't the best though.

This model caught my eye because of the hammer action, midi options, and pitch/mod wheels. I figured for just $100 more that would be worth it--but if the unit is complete junk, then I'll not waste my time.

Thanks,
Squeak
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#210353 - 08/01/07 08:38 AM Re: Williams Encore Digital Piano--Anyone play/own it??
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Squeak save a few more bucks & get what you REALLY want.

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#210354 - 08/01/07 09:37 AM Re: Williams Encore Digital Piano--Anyone play/own it??
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I'm already saving a crap load of money buying the Roland SonicCell over the Fantom $800 compared to $2000.., yeah that's a big savings! The NP-30 will be more than sufficent for what I need. Plus for $299..., man still shocked it's that low considering the action is completely new, and although not fully weighted its got a graded scale... I happened to come across the Williams model while looking at other things.

My set up will be the Roland SonicCell, Yamaha NP-30, Roland RS-70, and Yamaha S-700. I'm going to put the S-700 in my living room to have a board to fire up on the spot and everything else will be in my playroom
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#210355 - 08/01/07 09:39 AM Re: Williams Encore Digital Piano--Anyone play/own it??
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Sounds great Taks pics and post some demos when your set uo !!

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