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#210505 - 11/08/03 08:43 AM Re: The ideal home keyboard
nardoni2002 Offline
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hi dazart ,you can get kn7000 cheaper at singingchicken.co.uk glos.uk keep looking it may even be less,mike

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#210506 - 11/08/03 09:01 AM Re: The ideal home keyboard
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mike(keybplayer)i remember your recent test of kn7000 (with a lousy vocal processor)and now that you have had the tyros for a while and this board has opened up to you ,how do they compare now,mike

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#210507 - 11/08/03 09:05 AM Re: The ideal home keyboard
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mike, the reason I recommended the KN7000 to 'dazart' is because he says he doesn't want to "sing" along with his playing. If he did sing and wanted a good Vocal Processor I would have recommended the Tyros as top billing, ie., (first choice).

Best regards,
Mike
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#210508 - 11/08/03 09:16 AM Re: The ideal home keyboard
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so both boards are pretty close,mike

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#210509 - 11/08/03 09:16 AM Re: The ideal home keyboard
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It is amazing; the KN7000 is a lot less expensive now in the UK than the Tyros is. It dropped over $800 [£500]. That is quite a chunk of change. For all of our USA members the KN7000 if sold here for the price they're selling them now in the UK we would be paying under $2,300 for it. If Technics follows suit and drops the price here in the U.S. to the UK equivalent I think there will be a mad dash for many Arranger enthusiasts to get one in my opinion.

Best regards,
Mike
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#210510 - 11/08/03 09:47 AM Re: The ideal home keyboard
dazart Offline
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Mike,
Good reply there thankyou.
I am thinking in the same lines as you here in England the kn7000 would be a very good value for money keyboard now that it as taken a drop in price.

I have listnened to the kn7000 next to the tyros and my opinun was aimed at the tyros.But now I ask myself why and it was probably the vocal processer that won me over and the drums on the tyros were much stronger.

I think in a home keyboard drums are not as important as in if you were performing live
and the vocal processer would probably be a waist of money.

A kn7000 at £1500
A tyros at £2000 and that is without the speakers.

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Regards,
Daz

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#210511 - 11/08/03 09:48 AM Re: The ideal home keyboard
keybplayer Offline
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Registered: 10/27/03
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Originally posted by nardoni 2002:
so both boards are pretty close,mike


Both boards are pretty close mike. But the Tyros has a 'big' advantage in the Vocal Processor department. But if Technics drops the price in the U.S. to the UK equivalent with the money saved a person could buy a very decent external Vocal Harmonizer that could surpass the Tyros Harmonizer. The Tyros has other advantages. It is lighter weighing in at 27 lbs vs. the KN7000 38.8 lbs. But as you can see it is only roughly 11 lbs. lighter. Plus the KN7000 has those 'excellent' built in speakers whereas the Tyros is a mute Board. I am still very happy with my Tyros purchase but things have a way of changing so I will be open to 'new' possibilities and purchases along the way. But for now I have no intention of parting with my Tyros unless something comes along that convinces me otherwise. It will have to be something 'revolutionary' that's for sure. The KN7000 isn't revolutionary (as apposed to the Tyros) and Korg's new Pa1X (61 Key with built-in speakers) most likely won't do it for me either by the fact it has only a mere 62 note Polyphony. But I will definitly run it through its paces when it does come out and if the Polyphony issue is a non-issue: well; you never know you know. I might just bite the bullet and get one; sell my PSR 2000 and probably keep the Tyros. Or vice versa; sell the Tyros and keep my PSR 2000. Or sell both the Tyros AND my PSR 2000. But like I said; the Pa1X probably won't be 'revolutionary' enough (as apposed to the Tyros). The Tyros has over "twice" the Polyphony that the Korg has. That is a show stopper right there IMO. But then again only time will tell if the Polyphony (lack of) is an issue or not.

Best regards,
Mike

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#210512 - 11/08/03 11:47 AM Re: The ideal home keyboard
tonkan Offline
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One of the most important features to have in a good home keyboard is aftertouch. While the PSR2000/2100 doesn't have this feature it is a very bad home board choice. Unfortunately only the top arrangers have aftertouch.
Vocal processor on the other hand is quite uninteresting on a home arranger.

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#210513 - 11/08/03 11:59 AM Re: The ideal home keyboard
nardoni2002 Offline
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tell me something,before you used to sing through an amp, do these vocal processors make that much difference,is it that we sing that bad and the processor smooths everything out,mike

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#210514 - 11/08/03 12:31 PM Re: The ideal home keyboard
nardoni2002 Offline
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mike(keybplayer)email me,mike

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