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#211136 - 11/16/01 02:21 PM Q's about Yamaha PSR-2000!
Arbaz Offline
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Registered: 06/05/01
Posts: 165
Hello everybody,
I just want to know that is it possible to record different patterns for different chords in style record mode like in Korg PA-80 or Korg i30 in style record mode you can record in major chord on var 1 and then record something completely new on the same variation (1) in the minor chord and then trigger them by playing the respective chord I think these are called chord variations and up to 6 chord variations are allowed per main variation (Var 1, 2, 3, 4) I hope that you guys understand what I am asking maybe Korg owners can understand this question better also how many bars of styles can be recorded in 2000 in PA-80 we can record up to 16 measures, and can we have different instruments for different variations?

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#211137 - 11/16/01 02:51 PM Re: Q's about Yamaha PSR-2000!
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
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Arbaz: The PSR2000 allows you to record a style pattern of up to 32 bars long.

As far as I can see (from reviewing the PSR2000 manual and looking at the 2000's 'Style Creator' page screen, you can only record ONE pattern for each variation (A,B,C,D). If someone else discovers anything different, let me know. - Scott

Took my (4 day old) PSR2000 on my gig yesterday (for the first time) and it went GREAT! More PSR2000 feedback and music forthcoming SOON ! - Scott
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#211138 - 11/16/01 03:35 PM Re: Q's about Yamaha PSR-2000!
Bluezplayer Offline
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Registered: 11/10/00
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Arbaz,

Scott is correct, There are is only 1 element per variation on the 2000. Still, compared to my PA80, this thing is pretty easy to navigate and use in real time. The sequencer has nice detailed functions but is a breeeze to use.

AJ
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#211139 - 11/16/01 08:18 PM Re: Q's about Yamaha PSR-2000!
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
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hey scott,

have you posted any songs created on the 2k yet on your site,

donny

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#211140 - 11/16/01 08:36 PM Re: Q's about Yamaha PSR-2000!
Scottyee Offline
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hey Donny....
soon, soon , soon
I'm just having too much fun PLAYING & performing with it and putting in all my extra time learning about all it's cool features. Style patterns up to 32 bars in length and pattern/song sequencer timing resolution of 1,920ppq. Now that truly is INCREDIBLE!

Another AMAZING thing is that I'm really growing to LOVE the keyboard FEEL and acoustic piano sample too. It's interesting to see that our old 'long time' Snthzone gang has slowly switched to Yamaha.
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#211141 - 11/17/01 12:19 AM Re: Q's about Yamaha PSR-2000!
Dnj Offline
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Scot,

I'm glad to see you took the bull by the horns and gigged with the 2k already. Thats the way to learn it "UNDER PRESSURE" on a job. Technology is changing so fast and Yamaha is right there with it.

Good Luck with your new unit.......

Donny

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#211142 - 11/17/01 01:07 AM Re: Q's about Yamaha PSR-2000!
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Donny: The 23 lb PSR2000 is GREAT ! 10 lbs lighter than the KN5000 really makes a DIFFERENCE, believe it or not. Can EASILY carry it in one hand w/case with other arm filled with the heavy stuff. The 2000's jazz styles suck (imho), but I was easily able to convert/import the terrific KN5000 classic jazz rhythms into the 2000 and now the PSR2000 shines in all areas. A/B'd the same style on the KN5000 and PSR2000 and was pretty amazed how well these styles transfered over to the 2000 via EMC style converter.

I feel like I'm working with 'two' great backup bands now. I start my first set off with the classic classy jazz swing styles from the KN5000 (Autumn Leaves, Night & Day, Misty, Jobim's Wave, Gershwin, etc) and then later play the more contemporary pop-ish sounding styles of the 2000. The PSR2000 is sounding SMOOTH and WARM with just the right punch thru my Roland PA as well as the Genelec nearfields in my studio too. The keyboard feel (as well as acoustic piano sample) has turned out NOT to be a problem afterall, as I had initially anticipated. In fact, both the keyboard feel and acoustic piano sound (I like to layer the Grand Piano with the XP Grand Piano sample) are reallly growing on me.
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#211143 - 11/17/01 12:03 PM Re: Q's about Yamaha PSR-2000!
Graham UK Offline
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Registered: 01/20/01
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Loc: Lincolnshire UK
Arbaz...As you state the Korg's have upto 6 Chord Variation Patterns within their Styles on each of the 4 variation arrangements giving them nice small variation rift's depending on the chord played. Most Korg Styles appear to use 3 chord variations Major,Minor,& 7th.
Unless a player has owned a Korg they just can not realise the quality of the Korg Styles. Even converted Korg Styles to Yamaha only produces the main Major part of the style because Yamaha models have no facility to recognise the other chord variations.
My present Roland EM2000 can be programmed to give 3 chord variations all within one style variation. Major, Minor & 7th.

Graham UK

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#211144 - 11/17/01 12:15 PM Re: Q's about Yamaha PSR-2000!
Arbaz Offline
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Registered: 06/05/01
Posts: 165
Thank you all,
Yes Graham UK you are right Korg does win in style department in PA-80 each variation can have different instruments with different levels this was not doable even on i30! in PA-80 all the styles can be user styles so you can have more than 300 user styles.

Scott thanks for your response can you please tell me more about PSR-2000 sequencer what I mean to ask is it possible to change styles while recording in real time also is it possible to mute particular parts while recording in real time say mute drums at measure 16 then un mute them again at measure 20 I hope you understand what I am asking.

AJ thanks for the reply I am looking forward for your comparison between PA-80 and PSR-2000 in all departments.

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