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#211211 - 10/25/04 04:53 PM For Grubba99
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Registered: 12/01/99
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I wanted to start this in a new thread so it could be separate from the rest of the "diversion" that seems to be taking over the original post.

When Grubba99 asked about the gigging opportunites, I first thought he was running down the world of the performer. Then I RE read it and I wasn't sure .... THAT'S why I stated the "assumption". I didn't want to take his question the wrong way.

There is so much unrest on this forum as soon as 4tracker chimes in. I don't understand why he's so negitive, but I try to answer in a helpful way anytime I can.
After REreading my answer ..... I won't change a thing. If he doesn't "get it", then he never will.

As for all the references to MY words here .... thanx to all of you who support my advice. I only want to help. Truly.
This is no ego boost. I get no money or endorsements. I have nothing to gain by giving advice, and only sleep to loose by visiting so often.

My participation in this forum has become second nature, and I really miss it when it's gone for a while, or I'm too busy to check in. Anyone that really thinks that I have an alternate agenda here ..... needs to get a hobby.
I only criticize behavior, not people.
(I hate the war, not the warrior.)
I LOVE learning, and sharing and making beautiful, creative statements in music and art.

This world is so full of unrest, and untrust ... we need MUSIC to make sense of it all. So, stop acting like the political candidates and put an end to the mudslinging please !!?!?!?!?

We want HARD truths here.
We want participation.
We want civility.
We want honesty.
We want happy. At least I do.

So, Ender4tracker ......... are you gonna play nice, or just keep talking to hear yourself talk? I for one, don't care if you stay or leave, but if you DO stay .... please try to be a little more civil.
There just may be something we can learn from you that's useful.
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#211212 - 10/25/04 05:39 PM Re: For Grubba99
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Great post Dave,
lets hope it doesn't fall on deaf ears!

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#211213 - 10/25/04 06:12 PM Re: For Grubba99
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Registered: 01/25/03
Posts: 221
Man, Uncle Dave, I know what you're trying to accomplish with this post but it usually is just a massive can of worms with guys like 4track. It'll go on forever and he'll never back down or try to see it from another viewpoint.

These guys are really just trolls. Quite bored with life. There are 50 new ones a week at Harmony Central. I actually go there once a day just to crack up about them. It's a shame that they try to ruin a very polite BBS like this one.

Good luck. Maybe he'll prove me dead wrong - a most appealing prospect.

Tommy

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#211214 - 10/25/04 06:39 PM Re: For Grubba99
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Registered: 03/21/03
Posts: 3748
Loc: Motown
It seems some of us are here all the time and others only occasionally; I'm signed in about 12 hours a day. In the short time I've been here I've found many friends. More importantly, I've been able to recognize who's real and who's not. People like Ender4track are not here all the time and are not real. But, what I like best about this forum is that it permits everyone to speak their peace - good or bad.
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#211215 - 10/25/04 08:18 PM Re: For Grubba99
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Registered: 11/25/00
Posts: 1211
Loc: Queretaro, Mexico
Uncle Dave......dito.....one of the GREAT things about this forum, is the sharing knowledge, experience......etc..besides,
Nobody likes the "bully" that for lack of talent, to much frustration and a inferior complex ( a cry for attention)......some individuals have to behave in such shameful conduct.
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#211216 - 10/25/04 08:52 PM Re: For Grubba99
Smurf Offline
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Registered: 10/01/04
Posts: 57
Loc: Ohio
Hello Folks,
I in no way meant any disrespect
to you UD in my post. All I was saying is that when we put down our thoughts in written form, without the benifit of facial expression, body language, etc. we can be mis-understood. I have learned a ton from this site, and from everyone on it, and I have also learned to RE-READ every post just to make sure I "get it" in the way it was meant. If I have offended anyone here, I am truly sorry about it. Smurf

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#211217 - 10/26/04 01:50 AM Re: For Grubba99
Graham UK Offline
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Registered: 01/20/01
Posts: 1925
Loc: Lincolnshire UK
UD. Well Said...Good Post

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#211218 - 10/26/04 03:25 AM Re: For Grubba99
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Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5520
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
UD
Eventhough I am not as well known on this forum as the Technics forum,I come here everyday to learn from you all. Sometimes I have a question,and generally it is you that takes your time to answer it.
THANK YOU

Bernie
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#211219 - 10/26/04 04:15 AM Re: For Grubba99
trevorjohn Offline
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Registered: 04/10/03
Posts: 225
Loc: Cambridge United Kingdom
Never were so many true words spoken UD except that I can't quite make out the bit about "Political Candidates".. Is there some sort of election going on then somewhere?????

Best wishes
Trevor

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#211220 - 10/26/04 04:42 AM Re: For Grubba99
kbrkr Offline
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Registered: 11/19/02
Posts: 2866
Loc: Tampa, FL
UD, you have my FULL support on this. I agree with everything you said and try to particpate by the same standard.

Al
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#211221 - 10/26/04 05:55 AM Re: For Grubba99
mikeathome1 Offline
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Registered: 08/23/04
Posts: 1208
Loc: Syracuse NY
I want to thank the regular members of this forum for all the help and advice they give day after day.
Those other negative guys are getting just what they want, the attention that they cannot earn any other way.
I would much rather spend my time on the contrubuting members of this forum.
So to all the regulars thanks for being patient and teaching an" old dog new tricks." Speaking only for myself, of course, about the old dog thing.


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#211222 - 10/26/04 07:28 AM Re: For Grubba99
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Registered: 01/02/04
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Loc: Lexington, Ky, USA
While everyone has a right to their opinion, civility is, for most of us, the way to go.

I'm glad I found you folks!


Russ

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#211223 - 10/26/04 08:15 AM Re: For Grubba99
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Registered: 08/28/04
Posts: 2206
Loc: Louisiana, USA
I've never ever been offended by Uncle Dave's posts. I don't know much, he's always helpful. I don't know why he would be perceived as anything other than helpful. Cheers to Uncle Dave. I wish I could sing like him too.

There are many people on here who are very helpful.

Without questions from idiots like me, there is no forum. Well, a stale one, maybe but not a dynamic one.

I have been online for many years. Once you've composed thousands of posts on forums, you figure out... many people are just flat out rude. And I'm the type, you diss me, I'm gonna come and say Screw you buddy. The internet allows people to be very bold. If they were sitting on a barstool, talking to people like many people talk on forums, there would be a lot of people on their ass.
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#211224 - 10/26/04 08:18 AM Re: For Grubba99
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We sure have spent a lot of time on this topic. I really don't feel the initial post or UD's reply were inappropriate. It was everyone else who went crazy, no thanks to Ender4track. Dave prefaced his remarks with his usual disclaimer and that should have been sufficient. Grubba's post, albeit a terse, wasn't necessarily demeaning; in his own words he was asking what he thought was a valid question. It was fun for a while, but it's getting old. Let's finish it and get on to something new.
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#211225 - 10/26/04 08:36 AM Re: For Grubba99
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Registered: 01/26/01
Posts: 1255
Loc: United States
in respect to cassp, I am deleting my post.

As he said, let us move on.

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#211226 - 10/26/04 08:50 AM Re: For Grubba99
cassp Offline
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sk880user, thanks for the respect, but you didn't have to remove your post. It kind of keeps the continuity of things going if we keep your VALUABLE comments there too. Oh well, next time ...
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#211227 - 10/26/04 10:42 AM Re: For Grubba99
royandreno Offline
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Posts: 451
Loc: Sandnes, Norway
Boy, I'm looking forward to the release of the G-70! That's gonna get our minds back on track!

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#211228 - 10/26/04 11:16 AM Re: For Grubba99
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
Everybody knows Dave's a smart-ass.
. . . but he's OUR smart-ass.
DonM
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#211229 - 10/26/04 01:40 PM Re: For Grubba99
bruno123 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 4912
Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DonM:
[B]Everybody knows Dave's a smart-ass.
. . . but he's OUR smart-ass.


Without a doubt he is a brat, but we do love him. There is only one of this kind of Dave in this forum --- and that's enough, but it would not be as informative or enjoyable without him.

This is a great place, John C.

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#211230 - 11/11/04 07:28 PM Re: For Grubba99
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Registered: 11/21/03
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Meant no harm, people! Talk about something else alraedy.

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