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#215354 - 06/24/06 01:28 PM Re: PA System. Any Ideas?
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Scott if I want to be skimpy...I will just roll a single Cube with my keyboard on top of it...Just two plugs and I am up and running..

Seriously , I still maintain my system is ideal for all venues...maybe I work out more than you, and a little[and I mean little] weight doesn't make any difference..
As for time is money...No one is as efficient as I.

What about jobs you are new to and don't know the room...Do you carry all three set ups?

I am prepared to do any job with one set up..
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#215355 - 06/24/06 01:32 PM Re: PA System. Any Ideas?
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
BTW..The Jumbo Screwdriver and Sledge hammer are to bigg to start off with...I don't own either one...my tools handle any job.
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#215356 - 06/25/06 12:46 AM Re: PA System. Any Ideas?
Scott Langholff Offline
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Registered: 06/09/02
Posts: 3163
Loc: Pensacola, Florida, USA
As with all of this, everyone has their own slant on this. I personally don't like messing with more than one set-up. In using the JBL's there is no need at all for something smaller, as these are only 23 pounds and sound great at a whisper or loud. It doesn't take any longer to set up than a 2.1 or 5.1 that's for sure and it covers the frequencies better than the midget satellites but a bunch.

Setting on the floor the have plenty of bass. If I do need a little more bottom, or thump thump. The sub from the Logitech z5500 at 188 watts RMS will knock out windows if you want. On the other hand even at low volumes and playing acoustic jazz or easy listening ballads it adds more realism to the bass.

If a little more omph is needed I use a Behringer UB802 mixer. It's surprizing how much that will add, and only cost me $42.

I'll have to admit the Bose L1 concept I like, I need to try them out for myself to see about the stereo phase thing and then see if it makes sense to spend that kind of money on a mono PA, or any PA for that matter.

Another option that I want to retest is the Peavey PR12's and the Behringer PMH880S. That's a lot of PA for $600-700. And, the speakers only weigh 29 lbs and the PA head only weighs 19 lbs. This interests me a lot.

I did test it for only a short period of time,(because it was way too loud for the music store employees to handle), I used the classic V shape for the EQ controls and some notes seems to drop out a bit probably because of the setting I used.

I think it was Don Mason that pointed that out to me. I really want to retest it set to flat and in a good sized hall if possible. A lot of this you just can't tell in a music store.

It's like Guitar Center. I know they have a Bose L1, but the room they are in is about the size of a large closet. What can you tell in a setting like that? Outside of the testing out the phase thing, not much.

Anyway, just wanted to add another opinion and options for those out there that may want to consider trying some speakers out.

Best
Scott
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#215357 - 06/25/06 05:11 AM Re: PA System. Any Ideas?
Dnj Offline
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#215358 - 06/25/06 05:58 AM Re: PA System. Any Ideas?
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
Scott,

If I recall, GC is offering a 30-day no questions asked return policy with the Bose L-1. The price, whether you buy directly from Bose, or GC is the same. The only difference is the 45 day return policy versus the 30 day. Give it a try, fire it up in a large hall, and run a dozen quality midi files through the keyboard and sound system. Walk throughout the venue listening to the sounds, A/B the Bose with your current PA doing the exact same procedure, then you can make a valid assessment based upon what you hear. If you don't like the sounds produced through the Bose, pack it up, take it back and go with the system you're currently using. For me, and a growing number of individuals throughout the industry, the L-1 provides unsurpassed sound quality. Personally, I don't need to hear anything in stereo, and even when I used a pair of Barbetta Sona 32Cs that were spaced 15 feet apart, most of my audiences didn't hear the stereo separation at all. I did a lot of investigation before purchasing the Bose L-1, listened to dozens of systems, and none provided the rich, clear, crisp sound quality of the L-1. As for phase cancellation, it has not been a problem for me or my audiences--they love what they hear.

Good Luck,

Gary

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#215359 - 06/25/06 06:41 AM Re: PA System. Any Ideas?
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
Gary, I actually got a better price from M. Friend by first getting a quote from Guitar Center. M. Friend matched it. I think it was $1699. for L1 and the sub, including free shipping and one-year no interest financing.
ScottL. Get in your car and come listen to my T2 through the Bose. I can hear no problems at all, nor can any of my customers, clients or fellow musicians. I use it for everything from Nursing Homes to outdoor concerts.
I actually hope nobody else around here ever gets one, because it gives me a great advantage!
DonM
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#215360 - 06/25/06 01:48 PM Re: PA System. Any Ideas?
Scott Langholff Offline
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Registered: 06/09/02
Posts: 3163
Loc: Pensacola, Florida, USA
Hey Don

That sounds like it would be fun. I'll have to see if and when that would be feasible.

Scott

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#215361 - 06/25/06 02:03 PM Re: PA System. Any Ideas?
bruno123 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 4912
Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
Quote:
Originally posted by Scott Langholff:
Hey Don

That sounds like it would be fun. I'll have to see if and when that would be feasible.

Scott


Scott, your opinion when you see/hear it, Since I also use JBL 10's.

Thanks, John C.



[This message has been edited by bruno123 (edited 06-25-2006).]

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#215362 - 06/25/06 05:33 PM Re: PA System. Any Ideas?
PraiseTheLord Offline
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Registered: 08/24/04
Posts: 782
Loc: N Fort Myers, FL, USA
Hi beachbum. I have found the Yamaha StagePAS a perfect combination for small nursing home gigs that I do (25 to 75 people) even in difficult sound locations. the keyboard sounds rich and vocals exceptionally clear. I also like the reverb effect, although I have seen some negative views on that too.

Also important to me, it is light and easy to set up.

Graham
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#215363 - 06/25/06 07:51 PM Re: PA System. Any Ideas?
GlennT Offline
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Registered: 12/01/02
Posts: 1790
Loc: Medina, OH, USA
This looks good, tho as for as I know, nobody around here has checked it out:
http://www.roland.com/products/en/SA-300/index.html

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