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#217379 - 07/14/06 08:40 PM New portable PA from Fender
RobertG Offline
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New 500 watt system from Fender.

Maybe this might help Donny in his holy-grail quest for a smaller sound system.
http://namm.harmony-central.com/SNAMM06/Content/Fender/PR/Passport-Deluxe-PD-500.html

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#217380 - 07/14/06 08:50 PM Re: New portable PA from Fender
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I don't believe I've ever heard a Fender Passport in operation, and I don't care. IMHO, these are the absolute ugliest things I have ever seen. I wouldn't be caught dead in public with one of these. I wonder what they were thinking when they used all those kitchen knobs from the '50's

Scott

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#217381 - 07/14/06 10:06 PM Re: New portable PA from Fender
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Its new to me & interesting with that kind of power & portability .....but I will certainly look for it in the stores when I'm window shopping with Fran & Uncle Dave soon...thanx so much for the link & info my friend.

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#217382 - 07/14/06 11:17 PM Re: New portable PA from Fender
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I have to concur with ScottL that these certainly look ugly. 250 watts to each speaker!? Sure sounds like a lot of excess (inefficient?) power needed to drive such small 8"(?!) speakers. I'll hold final judgement till after an actual listening performance test, but I don't think 8" speakers alone can produce enough (if any at all) bottom end. - Scott
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#217383 - 07/14/06 11:20 PM Re: New portable PA from Fender
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Absolutely agree, Scott. It's no 'looker'. The word 'grotesque' comes to mind.

I've heard a similar Peavey portable system, and I wouldn't be heard dead with that. The phrase 'no balls' comes to mind.

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#217384 - 07/15/06 06:58 AM Re: New portable PA from Fender
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Originally posted by Scottyee:
I but I don't think 8" speakers alone can produce enough (if any at all) bottom end. - Scott


Just like the Motion Sound? 100

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#217385 - 07/15/06 09:27 AM Re: New portable PA from Fender
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This new one may be better, but the old ones sound terrible to me. I've heard them on several occasions. The Peavey Escort blows them away.
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#217386 - 07/15/06 10:08 AM Re: New portable PA from Fender
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Before everyone starts labeling these as the ugly duckling of speakers--take a closer look at WHY the design is the way it is.

The point of this design is "portability". The mixer(amp), and speakers all hook together to form (ONE) unit to make transporting them easier.

Anyone actually heard them yet? Funny because there seems to be assumptions as to how they sound. Clearly, as you all should know by now--with current technology you can't judge a speaker anymore by how it looks, or the size of the woofer... Hell Bose is a clear example of that.

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#217387 - 07/15/06 11:52 AM Re: New portable PA from Fender
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I thought the whole idea of this system was portability. The specs say: "Weighing in at a mere 53 lbs."

53 lbs sure isn't my idea of portability.

My idea of portability is speakers that weigh 23 lbs and maybe a mixer that weighs just a couple pounds, and I've got that with the JBL Eon 10 G2's when I decide to use the Behringer UB802 mixer which does give them more headroom if desired.

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#217388 - 07/15/06 12:49 PM Re: New portable PA from Fender
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Originally posted by Scott Langholff:
I thought the whole idea of this system was portability. The specs say: "Weighing in at a mere 53 lbs."

53 lbs sure isn't my idea of portability.

My idea of portability is speakers that weigh 23 lbs and maybe a mixer that weighs just a couple pounds, and I've got that with the JBL Eon 10 G2's when I decide to use the Behringer UB802 mixer which does give them more headroom if desired.


Scott what are you using with the g2 10's to get some decent bottom..[G2 sub?] I certainly wasn't impressed with the JBl g2 10's at all in the A/B tests we've done with many other speakers.....they definitely dont give me enough oomph....& I hate the wedgie design too make s for a clumsy transport......but at least they're Black

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#217389 - 07/15/06 12:50 PM Re: New portable PA from Fender
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Originally posted by squeak_D:
Anyone actually heard them yet? Funny because there seems to be assumptions as to how they sound. Clearly, as you all should know by now--with current technology you can't judge a speaker anymore by how it looks, or the size of the woofer...




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#217390 - 07/15/06 12:59 PM Re: New portable PA from Fender
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Originally posted by RobertG:
Maybe this might help Donny in his holy-grail


Right now my Holy Grail is Two Mackie SRM450's & if if needed I'll add a SWA 1501 Sub....talk about "BALLS"
http://www.mackie.com/products/srm450/
http://www.mackie.com/products/swa1501/

& a Tyros 2 w/LT

But, tommorow could bring other options.....I finished playing with sub-standard sounding PC speakers, little underpowered units, suedo stereo boloney amps,..............as far as powered speakers go I am very happy with the Mackie line for sure!!...hey Scott Yee...Look at my Biceps

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#217391 - 07/15/06 03:04 PM Re: New portable PA from Fender
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Hi Donny

Usually I just set the Eons on the floor tilted up. There is more than enough bass in the situations that you can do that, which is the majority of time. When I use the sub which is not needed very often, I use the z5500 Logitech sub only. It weighs 34 lbs, I haul it in a rolling duffle bag. It has more bottom by far than I would ever need or want.

If a little more omph is needed the UB802 Behringer mixer makes a noticable difference in the headroom department.

I put marine web belting handles on the Eons for very easy and balanced transport. I just took off the speaker plate, inserted the belting, and screwed the plate back on. Otherwise they're a little lopsided when trying to use their idea of a handle.

They work for me on about 98% of my needs. But, interestingly enough, the few times that I wished I had more volume, I was asked to turn down. Interesting how we perceive it and how the paying customer and audience sees it.

These would end your search for a small set up. If in your case you need more for the bigger jobs then you can pull out the Mackies.

They're just 23 lbs. Just plug and play.

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#217392 - 07/15/06 09:14 PM Re: New portable PA from Fender
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Scott...I'm glad the g2 10's are filling your needs....look no further if your happy....my search is over for now...
I'm content with the T2/450's/LT ....I'm too busy to even think about gear right now anyway....
I just want to play music everyday!!

stay well

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#217393 - 07/15/06 10:03 PM Re: New portable PA from Fender
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Now...... this! is ugly

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#217394 - 07/15/06 10:10 PM Re: New portable PA from Fender
Scott Langholff Offline
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Hi ViLo

lol, I'm thinking to myself as I'm looking at the pic, now this looks kind of cool. Then I scroll down and see your accessment. Well, anything is prettier than the Passport

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#217395 - 07/15/06 10:24 PM Re: New portable PA from Fender
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#217396 - 07/16/06 07:56 AM Re: New portable PA from Fender
ViLo Offline
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Originally posted by Scott Langholff:
Hi ViLo

lol, I'm thinking to myself as I'm looking at the pic, now this looks kind of cool. Then I scroll down and see your accessment. Well, anything is prettier than the Passport


Who's coming up with this designs? SOme spoiled rich brat with nothing to do?Maybe there's one in every company!
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#217397 - 07/16/06 08:03 AM Re: New portable PA from Fender
Dnj Offline
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Sound first.......Design second

Just look at the Tyros 2 Super Great sound...........terrible body design, sharp corners, color, my persoanl dislikes

[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 07-16-2006).]

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