Traynor K4 sounds ok but i'm finding I prefer pole mounts. I already have a Makie 808S so I figure I'd spring for a pair of good sounding non-powereds. Cheap, er inexpensive, would be nice. There's been some stir lately about the PR15N. I don't feel I need a 15" but at 199.00 and lite weight, what the hell. Any other suggestions as I plan to get them off the 'net (free shipping + no tax). They'll be used to drive my C1 organ and SonicCell. Probably no vocals (certainly no;t by me).

thanks,

chas

PS: I have a pair of Cerwin Vegas (12's) but they sound pretty crappy with the 808s.

a friend of mine has a pair of the pr 12's with a powered mixer they sound great for the money and weight, he sings plays guitar and backing tracks through them.

EV SX300, imo the best speakers for vocals in the inexpensive range, and light...(they have been out for a while now so the prices are tumbling, must be a new model coming out..

are those the same model EV spkrs Scotty Yee was recommending?

wondering how the PR10N (20 lbs, $150) compares to the JBL EON 10 sound-wise?

I heard the PR10's and they don't have the sound or drive of the JBL 10 Eon G2's.

The PR12 both powered and non-powered sound good and can get really loud.

The non-powered 12's are only 24 lbs and the powered 12's are only 34 pounds now.

I'm considering some presently.

Chas,

I used the Peavey PR15's mounted on poles this summer and they kick. It's too bad they weren't mine. I loved the sound AND the weight.

Tom

Am wondering if anyone has compared the Peavey PR12's yet with the Behringer B212's.

The Behringers are about 26 lbs unpowered and 36 lbs powered.

The dimensions are:

Peavey: 18w x 23.75h x 14d
Behringers: 14w x 22h x 11d

Interesting to see that Behringer is supposed to be made in the same factory as Mackie these day's. I knew they had switched to making them in, what China I believe, but I hadn't heard about being made in the same factory as Mackie. I wonder if that part is truly factual. http://www.zzounds.com/item--PEVPR12N
http://www.zzounds.com/item--PEVPR12PN
http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHB212
http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHB212A

I noticed some of the weights listed at zzsounds are incorrect.

I understand the PR15's sound good from people who have used them. I decided not to even try them because of there size. Way too big for my taste.

Scott



[This message has been edited by Scott Langholff (edited 10-21-2007).]

In order of preference:
EV SX300 (200)most expensive of the three
Mackie i300
Peavey PR12 (15)least expensive.

All three would benefit from a powered sub like the EV Sba120, especially if you're running your keys and sounds thru them.

I think I said the first time you mentioned those Cerwin-Vegas that you should dump them. I'm not a fan of JBL's, tho they are good speakers. I think the EV's are livelier, while the JBL's are rawer and deader. The Mackies are a nice compromise and the Peavey's are a great bargain for the sound.

Interesting that I like the sound of the JBL 10 over the 15. As a matter of fact, when I tried the 15" sound speakers of all the big names it, to me and my wifes ears added more crud to the sound. They were loud but not so pretty to the ears.