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#219021 - 02/02/04 01:00 PM Re: 3/4 time songs?
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What.. ..no "House of the Rising Sun??"
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#219022 - 02/02/04 01:23 PM Re: 3/4 time songs?
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Again, thanks for the suggestions. I've got to try "How Can I Be Sure?" and yes how can we forget "House of the Rising Sun".
I just came up with another by Kris Kristopherson - "The Silver Tongued Devil And I". I love this song and it would be great played in a bar setting. Did The Beatles ever have a song in 3/4 time? "Give Peace A Chance" maybe?
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#219023 - 02/02/04 01:40 PM Re: 3/4 time songs?
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Originally posted by ChuckH:
Did The Beatles ever have a song in 3/4 time?


Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds (Intro)
I Me Mine (George Harrison)
Long Long Long (George Harrison)
Dig A Pony (Lennon/McCartney)
BlackBird (1st measure)
* this one really switches time signature a lot, going from 3/4 to 4/4 to 3/2 to 4/4, to 2/4, and back again to 3/4.


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#219024 - 02/02/04 02:38 PM Re: 3/4 time songs?
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Originally posted by Leon:
What.. ..no "House of the Rising Sun??"


Hi Leon: Though I've admittedly seen this tune shown (incorrectly ) in some charts as in 3/4, it's actually imo a 4/4 blues tune (with a 6/8 feel) as evidenced by it's classic guitar appegio line: http://www.eskimo.com/~ogre/print/beginner/20010513.html

To add to MacAllcock's contributions, here are a few more 3/4 country waltz time chestnuts:

Amazing Grace
Cattle Call - Eddy Arnold & Scott Yee
Four Walls - Jim Reeves
Satisfied Mind - Porter Wagoner
I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry - Hank Williams Sr.

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#219025 - 02/02/04 03:29 PM Re: 3/4 time songs?
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ooooo...Scott, I beg to differ, which is s good thing, we each have our own opinions.I'm going by the charts that I have seen, not what someone posted on the internet.
Just My Thots...L
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#219026 - 02/02/04 05:07 PM Re: 3/4 time songs?
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Originally posted by Leon:
ooooo...Scott, I beg to differ, which is s good thing, we each have our own opinions.


Hi Leon: I wholeheartedly agree that you should play the tune the way 'YOU' like, but if you listen to the classic Eric Burdon & the Animals, or Bob Dylan version, the groove is definitely: 1-2-3-4-5-6 (6/8 feel), and not 1-2-3-1-2-3 feel as you suggest. Listen to the bass guitar line (Animals version). You'll notice that it plays only on 'beat one' of each measure, with the 8th note guitar arpeg & rhythm guitar providing the 1-2-3-4-5-6 (6/8) rhythm feel of each measure.

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Originally posted by Leon:
I'm going by the charts that I have seen, not what someone posted on the internet.


Leon, though I certainly agree we shouldn't just go by something posted on the internet either, I also wouldn't rely exclusively on charts & fakebooks either. Many fakebooks & charts often reflect incorrect chords, rhythms and time signatures, and if played verbatim, end up sounding pretty square & squirely, and not what was actually intended by the composer or played by the classic hit artist, in this case Eric Burdon & Bob Dylan. I've performed this tune alot over the years, and with many different bands and never did it in waltz time . The bottom line is to listen to an actual recording, and then use 'your ears' to determine the feel (groove) of a song. My apologies for sounding so opionated about this, but this is a really important aspect to music that I think WORTH talking about. The notes on paper (charts & fakebooks) are only man's best feeble attempt at documenting what the composer/performer was actually playing. Music comes from our heart/soul, and not from notes on paper. - Scott
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#219027 - 02/02/04 08:54 PM Re: 3/4 time songs?
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Scott...No offence taken..no apologies necessary like you said, "Play it the way it feels to you.
Just my thots...L
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#219028 - 02/06/04 06:05 PM Re: 3/4 time songs?
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How about the old Johnny Ray standard "Cry"?

Was running through all the old tunes in my head that I'd done at one time or another and this was the only one I came up with different from every one elses lists.

I hope anyone who hadn't been doing this one will pick it up for future use as it was a true classic heart-wrenching torcher.

I am glad I remembered it. I can start to feel more like a contributer to the forum, now, and not just a lurker/user. And hope to more than pull my own weight around here someday.


You all are awesome and each in your own distinctive ways.

OldNewb
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#219029 - 02/06/04 07:10 PM Re: 3/4 time songs?
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Ah yes, Johnny Ray's "Cry". Thanks for the suggestion. BTW, here's a link to one of my favorite sites for oldies arrangements. Thanks to The Guitar Guy for a great site. http://theguitarguy.com/cry.htm
Chuck
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#219030 - 02/06/04 07:18 PM Re: 3/4 time songs?
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Oldnewb: Sorry to disappoint you, but Johnnie Ray's song "Cry" is not in 3/4, but in 2/4 (cut time). The one I remember hearing first was Lynn Anderson's 1972 version. - Scott
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